patter player + effect

samoo
samoo Member Posts: 6 Member

Hello,

I'm returning to Traktor after few years of absence. Trying to get most of pattern player, is it somehow possible to route sounds from pattern player through another effects slot within traktor? I've been trying but without success.


Also I'm using X1 and F1 and latest Traktor Pro

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  • Stevan
    Stevan Member Posts: 1,512 Expert
    Answer ✓

    Yes, just assign FX Units to the same deck.

    Note that signal has a path in Traktor.

    Unit 1 --> Unit 2 --> Unit 3 --> Unit 4 --> Mixer FX

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  • LostInFoundation
    LostInFoundation Member Posts: 3,983 Expert

    I think you must change the pattern player settings (send/insert/post fader)

  • Stevan
    Stevan Member Posts: 1,512 Expert
    Answer ✓

    Yes, just assign FX Units to the same deck.

    Note that signal has a path in Traktor.

    Unit 1 --> Unit 2 --> Unit 3 --> Unit 4 --> Mixer FX

  • samoo
    samoo Member Posts: 6 Member

    thank you very much, i did not found this info earlier.

  • Sacco Naz
    Sacco Naz Member Posts: 120 Advisor

    Pattern player not doing post fader it is stuck on insert...even when you change the setting

  • zephry
    zephry Member Posts: 545 Pro
    edited August 2023

    Insert is what you should use anyway. Post fader is for delay and reverb trails after a fader is pulled down.

    As said above make sure you have at least one effect bank after the pattern player(also on insert). And of course each audio channel needs the effects channel button on.

    If you use effect slot 4. Only the Mixer (filter knob) effects will do anything to the sound.

    Example:

    Effect slot 1 = pattern player (insert)

    Effect slot 1 active on Deck A

    Effect slot 2 = Delay (insert)

    Effect slot 2 active on Deck A


    Another thing to keep in mind with effects is any repeat type effect like Beatmasher needs to be turned on after the pattern player starts or else it will just be silence. Or lower volume depending on the Dry/Wet knob amount. A repeat effect after the pattern player also might eliminate the pattern or make it seem continuously on if you forget.

  • Sacco Naz
    Sacco Naz Member Posts: 120 Advisor

    Wow how do you know all this?!

    I wish there was a Pattern Player Preferences Tab...

    I like post fader because I don't want the effects to be on the Pattern Player...

    Also I use post fader because I want the Pattern Player to keep on while I fade out the track... It adds a consistent thread to the mix...

    What's odd is that when I hit Post Fader the Pattern Player does keep playing when fader volume is down..however the effects still affect the Pattern Player...

    Basically I want the Player to play until I manually fade it out with the encoder... I don't want it to be affected by what I do to a track...I want it to be independent.... So Effects Slot 4 is that way with the Pattern Player but not 1-3...

    I use 3 Players... 1,2,4

    And Delay in effects slot 3...


    Why are the Patten Players dissimilar in different effects slots... It should be uniform right?

    And Post Fader should mean just that... Pattern Player shall not be influenced by what is happening in a track...

    You are right about Pattern Player in Effects Slot 4...It is Post Fader By default...

    Where is all this information located?


    THANKS!

  • Sacco Naz
    Sacco Naz Member Posts: 120 Advisor

    Based on this Video Post Fader leave the Pattern player indented of Deck Settings...

    However this is not the case with my Pattern Player in Slots 1 -3 only Slot 4

  • Stevan
    Stevan Member Posts: 1,512 Expert

    In Post fader mode The Pattern Player volume is handled by Dry Wet knob and it is indipendent of Channel Volume and EQ's. This means that the signal from the Pattern Player won't be affected by any of the mixer controls which help keeping samples playing on top during transitions. Automating the Dry Wet parameter would result in fade out effect for the pattern Player. Just a thought.

  • Sacco Naz
    Sacco Naz Member Posts: 120 Advisor

    Yes that should be true.. but my issue is that Pattern Player Post Fader on Effects Slots 1-3 do not behave this way...It acts as Insert ....only Pattern Player on Effects Slot 4 does it behave properly...as Post Fader

    I'm wondering why this is the case...

    As Zephyr Said above: "have at least one effect bank after the pattern player(also on insert). And of course each audio channel needs the effects channel button on.

    If you use effect slot 4. Only the Mixer (filter knob) effects will do anything to the sound.."

  • Stevan
    Stevan Member Posts: 1,512 Expert

    If you use effect slot 4. Only the Mixer (filter knob) effects will do anything to the sound..

    That's why I recommend automating the Dry/Wet knob. By automating it, you don't need any additional effects in the chain - the Dry/Wet parameter fades out the pattrern.

    I will make a mapping for this later today and post in this thread. You will need a virtual midi driver for it to work though (IAC/loopMIDI).

  • Stevan
    Stevan Member Posts: 1,512 Expert

    Alrighty, the concept TSI for the Post Fader and installation guides gor PC and Mac are attached.

    Each Deck is assigned to the specific FX Unit as follow.

    Deck A = FX Unit 1

    Deck B = FX Unit 2

    Deck C = FX Unit 3

    Deck D = FX Unit 4

    Give it a go. It is definitely just a working concept at this point and can be further optimized.

  • Stevan
    Stevan Member Posts: 1,512 Expert

    Note to myself, stop making new features nobody wants to try out.

  • Sûlherokhh
    Sûlherokhh Member Posts: 1,468 Expert

    But how else would you know? I like making new features both for having them myself and to find out if i can do and how. This may sound presumptuous but don't stop completely. I can't really test myself without a plus license. As far as i have sampled your work i can only say really good stuff. Many just seem to lack the will to experiment.

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