Sustain Pedal in Ignition Keys (or other Play series)

shirleytemple22
shirleytemple22 Member Posts: 11 Newcomer

Hi all,

Sustain behaves as expected for some presets, but not others. How do I define behavior for sustain pedal within the program? For example, I can easily set it do certain things in Vintage Organs in View B. Just can't find the view or parameter for Ignition.

Thanks!

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  • EvilDragon
    EvilDragon Moderator Posts: 1,021 mod
    edited July 2023 Answer ✓

    That is indeed intentional and by design. It was done in order to enable users to MIDI learn the Latch button to CC #64 in order to sustain the sequence. Otherwise if it just behaved as your regular sustain pedal, you'd very quickly get a mush of overlapping voices, which is usually not what's wanted.

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  • LostInFoundation
    LostInFoundation Member Posts: 4,008 Expert

    Not all instruments take advantage of sustain pedals

  • shirleytemple22
    shirleytemple22 Member Posts: 11 Newcomer

    It works in certain presets and not others, so it's not a universal Ignition Keys issue.

    It doesn't even apply universally to specificA/B sounds--there are presets that don't seem to allow sustain that I can then recreate my own versions of, and sustain will work. I'm fairly confident there is a parameter somewhere, I just don't know where.

  • Jeremy_NI
    Jeremy_NI Customer Care Posts: 8,887 mod

    @shirleytemple22 Can you name a few presets where sustain works and a few where it doesn't so we can check it out?

  • Friede
    Friede Member Posts: 13 Member

    For example Dimension 7.

    Every preset that come with Seq activated ignores sustain, after deactivating Seq it sustain works for them also.

  • shirleytemple22
    shirleytemple22 Member Posts: 11 Newcomer

    Thanks Friede and NI team. It's a lot of the presets. Off the top of my list, Thicck, Three Hole Pipe, Belysium all do not appear to have sustain functionality.

  • Jeremy_NI
    Jeremy_NI Customer Care Posts: 8,887 mod

    @shirleytemple22 Ok I think I see the issue now. It depends of the selected samples or sound engines in A and B. If both have a sample with an end, like here, there is no sustain because the samples are simply played until the end.

    On other presets, the sample is actually a loop or can be looped, sustain then will sustain the note.

    On presets with an arpeggiator or a sequence, the sustain pedal does nothing at all but you can use the latch function here.

    @EvilDragon The sustain pedal not working with the arp / sequence, is that intentional / by design?

  • EvilDragon
    EvilDragon Moderator Posts: 1,021 mod
    edited July 2023 Answer ✓

    That is indeed intentional and by design. It was done in order to enable users to MIDI learn the Latch button to CC #64 in order to sustain the sequence. Otherwise if it just behaved as your regular sustain pedal, you'd very quickly get a mush of overlapping voices, which is usually not what's wanted.

  • shirleytemple22
    shirleytemple22 Member Posts: 11 Newcomer

    Thanks, all.

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