When we can expect Traktor Pro 4.0 ?

Aquadics
Aquadics Member Posts: 61 Helper
edited October 2024 in Traktor Software & Hardware

Since I consider to buy Traktor Pro I am wondering when Traktor Pro 4.0 will be released.

Also I am wondering why there is no pro subscription which will allow us to use Traktor Pro without owning the base version. For now there is no way around to purchase Traktor Pro.

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  • Aquadics
    Aquadics Member Posts: 61 Helper
    edited April 2023

    I thought apple silicon is already natively supported in 3.9 beta or is it still only that we can use it in rosetta mode. After 3.9 release there should be a 4.0 quite soon. But since new features are taking very long it could happen that there will be first a summer break and we could expect a 4.0 beta erliest in the autumn or winter.

    Unbelievable to see how long all is taking. I was quit exited to see the roadmap for the first time but if I consider how long it is ago and what we got I am not sure what I have to think :-)

  • lord-carlos
    lord-carlos Member Posts: 4,042 Expert

    Maybe they continue with 3.10 after 3.9

    Who knows.

  • Kubrak
    Kubrak Member Posts: 3,145 Expert

    Exactly, 3.9 says nothing in respect to future 4.0..

    But, there was not new HW for considerable time as well. It would be meaningfull that new HW and new Traktor come the same time. If there is considerable leap in features.....

    So, new Traktor HW and SW might come soon. The same for Maschine HW and SW and Komplete keyboards.

    There must be something new fast. Or be phased out or sold to a new manufacturer.

  • Stevan
    Stevan Traktor Mapping Mod Posts: 2,263 mod

    A hybrid of X1, F1 and K2 would be the best selling product. Just take the best from each unit and make it D2 big.

  • Kubrak
    Kubrak Member Posts: 3,145 Expert
    edited April 2023

    I do not think NI has intended DJ2 as future replacement for Traktor. DJ2 looks like SW targeted to kids and bedroom DJs. Only two decks, very limited set of effects and no support for Pro HW.

    Why do you think it might happen become flagship NI product. Beside the fact they would abadon Traktor trademark.

    Maybe that NI wanted to sell Traktor division and continue with SW and HW for non-pro DJs. And it did not become reality.

    Anyway, NI may take some parts from DJ2, other from TP3, yet another from iZotope (or other Soundwide partners) and make TP4...

  • Aquadics
    Aquadics Member Posts: 61 Helper

    I am quit sure that Traktor Pro 4 will be build on Traktor Pro 3 and not on DJ2.

    This to apps are complete different products and are targeting completely different users. Honestly when purchased my first DJ controller Kontrol S3, Traktor Pro 3 was overwhelming and I only used DJ2 on iPad and later on the Mac. It took me at leased 2 - 3 month that until I wanted to get more ans switched to Traktor Pro.

    For me with Stems feature ready, it will be worth to make it a 4.x version. New hardware would be nice, especially small components like F1 / X1 but with a modern design and not only usable with Traktor Pro. It will be a absolute no way for me that I buy a controller which is not usable as a normal MIDI controller as well.

  • Kubrak
    Kubrak Member Posts: 3,145 Expert

    No, there is third way. Get some features from DJ2 and integrate them to TP4.

    It could happen earlier and be integrated to TP3.... But what would be to bring in TP4?

    Just guessing. Time will show. But my bet is, that TP4 will come within 10 months.

  • Kubrak
    Kubrak Member Posts: 3,145 Expert

    I guess iOS is not interesting for NI. It is nonPro. And if one wants use tablet for Pro DJing he may use Win and several of 2in1 options. Like MS Surface Pro for example. Apple users will have to wait until Apple ports MacOS to iPads. ;-)

    Maybe that hapens sooner than Rosetta 3 will come. Which I expect in four, five years.

  • Aquadics
    Aquadics Member Posts: 61 Helper

    Depends on the use case. I would not say that using DJ software on a tablet or phone is non pro. It is currently only, that there is no pro software existing for tablet or phone.

  • lord-carlos
    lord-carlos Member Posts: 4,042 Expert


    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/67540#Comment_67540

    Algoriddim djay pro

  • Kubrak
    Kubrak Member Posts: 3,145 Expert

    I said that DJ2 was non-pro. Only two decks, limited FX, not working with S5/S8/D2/Z2, no STEMS, ....

    I do not consider myself Pro I have never played for more than 30 people, but I do use tablet. TP3 on Win using S5 and 2xD2. It works fine.

    I could run DJ2, but it would not fit my use case by far.

    I can imagine DJ2 might be used by Pro as backup solution for the case, main setup temporarily fails in the midle of gig. But one could have it using Traktor and Win tablet (2in1).

  • Scratch-E Con
    Scratch-E Con Member Posts: 102 Advisor
    edited April 2023

    Traktor 4 needs some killer features for the 'Base' version if NI expects people to lay down 50 bucks.

    Looking at what 3.x versions have delivered (too little to mention IMO) I don't think it's coming any day soon.

  • Kubrak
    Kubrak Member Posts: 3,145 Expert

    They may give it STEM separation, few more effects, updated interface, ... More of this or that. Also online services. Or some cloud things....

    I guess that STEM separation and few online services would do. And flexible beatgrids on top.

  • Aquadics
    Aquadics Member Posts: 61 Helper
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/67576#Comment_67576

    My opinion too. Only problem STEM will be subscription only. So what it will be worth to pay another 50 bucks to update from 3.x to 4.x. Maybe 4.0 will be subscription only and no requirement to update.

    Let us hope that 4.0 beta will be ready before the summer holidays.

  • Kubrak
    Kubrak Member Posts: 3,145 Expert

    STEMs may be subscription in TP3, and for everyone in TP4. We will see...

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