Maschine as multitimbral logic plugin not working?

basehead617 · 2023-04-01T22:45:03+00:00

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Just tried following this link:

[sorry it wouldn't let me post the link, but google "Loading MASCHINE as a Multi-Timbral Instrument" and the first page that comes ups an NI support page on this]

Specifically the 'Loading MASCHINE as a Multi-Timbral Instrument' section..

Logic 10.7.7, Maschine 2.17

Created a 16-part multitimbral software instrument track for Maschine - loaded a drum kit from Groups browser - set each pad's channel MIDI Input in machine to source = Host and Channel = 1 through 16..

Playing MIDI into any of those channels, nothing makes any sound...

Can someone else confirm this?

[NOTE: the Drumkit routings method where everything is in one midi channel does work, but not the multitimbral method]

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ShelLuser

I think this is the link OP is talking about: link to support site article.

Now, fair warning: I don't use Logic myself so I have to go by what I'm reading. I don't expect to solve this issue, but I am hoping to give you useful comments.

Created a 16-part multitimbral software instrument track for Maschine

Just making sure: 16-part, does that also involve 16 tracks?

Because when I check the page linked above I see the following (quote from the support page):

Create a Software Instrument track with MASCHINE loaded on it. Tick the Multi-timbral box and enter 16 in the parts field, as shown below. This will create 16 MIDI tracks that will automatically be assigned to MIDI channels 1 through 16 in ascending order.

Notice 16 tracks? Like I said, I'm not familiar with Logic but I can definitely understand what's going on here: each track will sent MIDI to Maschine through a different MIDI channel. Since you mentioned parts I can't help wonder if you did something different.

mason drielling

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/62505#Comment_62505

This solution is rediculous. I think that’s the issue here.

mason drielling

You should be able to use komplete kontrol for this. Not all these extra steps.

ShelLuser

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/62507#Comment_62507

That won't work because you can't use that in combination with Maschine. Please take note of the forum you're in: this is about using Maschine.

mason drielling

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/62508#Comment_62508

Im saying you should be able to use the Maschine controller to control Komplete Kontrol vst. I know what forum I'm in and I was clear.

D-One

How are you playing the MIDI? Thru a Maschine Controller?

At least from Logics Piano Roll I cannot confirm, everything works fine here except one mistake or misleading fact about the article:

Key Mode to Drumkit will not allow to play each Pad chromatically, that's not whats made for. To play pads chromatically use Manual Mode.

I'm on an older version of Logic tho, 10.7.4, not sure if anything changed since.

I cant confirm atm if a MAS controller in Maschine-Mode can record directly to those MIDI Tracks tho, afaik AUv2 has no MIDI Out from Plugins, so you would need to use MIDI Mode.

I'll attach my project in case you need to compare.

multi-logic.zip

basehead617

@D-One I'm playing an external keyboard into the MIDI In of the Maschine mk3..

I hope the logic version doesn't make a difference.. I'll take a look at your project later today.

Jeremy_NI

@mason drielling What you are saying has nothing to do with the OP's issue. there was zero mention of Komplete Kontrol whatsoever. Maybe you can complain in a more relevant post or create your own.

basehead617

@D-One Your project works when opened yes.

After many random changes fooling around, mine started working, but I have no idea what kicked it into working. However, when I just create a new project, and set it up it doesn't work. I'm trying to track down what the issue is now but no luck..

Very simple and I could take a video of it..

run logic
new project
create 16-part multitimbral Maschine 2 software instrument from startup screen
browse and load any group e.g. a drumkit, and confirm pads make sound
go to channel input on each pad and on MIDI page change source to Host and Channel to the number of the pad
select any of the 16 tracks in logic (record mode enabled which I have on my default) and play a midi controller (which is plugged into Maschine mk3) into it
nothing makes sound

This is not recording any notes (though that makes no difference either), just playing a controller into it..

I've also tried other direct USB midi inputs like my P6.. no difference..

D-One

Not sure why this thread was closed, I re-opened it.

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/63699#Comment_63699

I tried again Logic 11.0.1, it still works with Piano Roll and/or MIDI drag-and-drop Patterns but not with external MIDI, I think the problem here is the guide does not specify the use case.

The method requires a controller that sends exactly a C3 Note, each in a different MIDI Channel, is whatever you're using to record/send MIDI doing that? (I tested with a M+ in MIDI Mode and a custom made template where all Pads send a C3 across all 16 Channels, one per Pad.)

I also noticed that the multi-timbral tracks that Logic creates all have the MIDI Input set to "All", that wont work with input because it will record all channels bunched together, I had to manually set each Channel Input # - In case you want to arm several tracks and record them in one go as opposed to a pad at a time.

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