Vadim Zavalishin ( reaktor main developer ) now works at u-he
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With the way Kontakt and Reaktor have been integrated into Maschine+ standalone, I dont see NI selling Reaktor any time soon. How'd that work then? Any compatibility between the apps would need to be broken.
A lot of the points raised in this thread talk about Reaktor as just another piece of audio software inside a computer, an old fish in an ever growing ocean of stuff.. But in the standalone hardware world, Reaktor is the only way to custom build instruments & fx for the Maschine+. This makes it not only redundant but ESSENTIAL for some of us. Thankfully, even as it exists in 6.5 allows decades worth of exploration within M+
When it comes to Reaktor running on a computer though, I do agree with the paint analogy. Not many are that fussed to mix their own pgments anymore, the shops are full of paint ranges with hundreds of readily curated paint tones, some are even designed to chromatically complement each other so that even total newbs who are clueless about colour can create colour schemes that work well enough for their needs.
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True.
But from what i remember when i started using Reaktor about 20 years ago it was still daunting for most people to build their own stuff,my friends were impressed by it but nobody i knew wanted to learn and build,i was the only one interested in that.So i am not really sure how much people were interested in building and prefered to browse the library although smaller at the time.
And let's not forget NI was a smaller company too.
Was Reaktor really more popular back in the day?
I could be wrong,i am just wondering if it's true that there were a lot more people interested in building with Reaktor.Might have been a small group at that time too but NI got bigger,started to have success with other stuff and needed more revenue.
And let's not forget how accessible making music has become now and started to attract a lot more people in,that changed the market for sure.
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Doesn't machine allow running vst's ?
You can code export vst's with plugdata + Faust , or Hise + faust , max -msp-gen + rainbo etc..Enough options
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Do you expect a M+mk2 in the future?
If the future of Reaktor depends on M+ standalone hardware success…
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I hope no M+ MK2 will be released…
It would be too tempting… and probably I would be deluded
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I think there were some people interested in Reaktor at that time, but very few were able to construct it themselves. Most people spend more time on music production, although there are countless synthesizer effect plugins nowadays, Reaktor is still a special existence. It is not much different from the past, and there are still people who are interested in it, but there are still very few who construct it themselves.
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I don't know if the official has counted how many people are using Reaktor? Including statistics on the user base of the college or music industry. But most people hear more about MaxMsp.
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The closest think to Reaktor is MaxMsp. MaxMsp seems to be successful and thrive well i think? Why is it more successful than Reaktor then?
I don't know much about MaxMsp but i know of the partnership with Ableton Live which is a big deal and then it seems to be well accepted and promoted into the academic circle,they teach about MaxMsp in sound design classes. I guess those 2 things alone are enough to make it successful.
I have also often heard midi processing is very poor in Reaktor compared to Max,this can influence a lot on people wanting to create live performance stuff.
It seems NI never tried to go towards the academic crowd.They tried to take advantage of the modular craze with blocks,but i wonder if that was a good thing after all.It certainly attracted more people but a lot of these people have no idea what Reaktor can do and think it's just a VCV rack type of software…and now that the initial excitement has passed it seems blocks is slowly starting to get forgotten.
Maybe NI didn't promote Reaktor the way it should have been.
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I really rarely see NI promoting Reaktor. ADSR Sound has been very active in publishing videos and articles about Reaktor in the past. MaxMsp is widely used in the college. Indeed, so many years have passed, and with the development of MaxMsp now, many people's enthusiasm for Reaktor is almost exhausted. In my opinion, MaxMsp and Reaktor are both difficult software to learn, why is there such a big difference in user base?
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Maschine allows running VSTs, but I am talking about Maschine+ standalone, as used in a completely computerless setup (I'm an old head so I refuse to call it DAWless). Maschine desktop (ie using Maschine with a computer) is just another piece of software that can be replaced with any other software.
I use Maschine+ to run my Reaktor stuff without a computer. (I actually use your Reaktor contributions quite a bit in my music, so thank you for that!) That's the whole point of Maschine+ for me. If it wasnt possible to do this, I'd probably use some other groovebox instead.
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Because.
- MaxMsp and its forks like plugdata allow you to save patches as full VSTs,
- It has a delay compensation feature
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At present, I think that although Plugdata is good, as a plugin, it is not very stable, at least not every DAW can run it stably. As for delay compensation, most DAW have support for it.
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As for delay compensation, most DAW have support for it.
It's not about DAW, but about the fact that MaxMsp and Plugdata know how to report to DAW about required delay compensation, but Reaktor doesn't, and that's why advanced algorithms in Reaktor can't be used without third-party plugins designed to compensate delay.
And using third-party plug-ins for Reaktor-built designs to tell your DAW to compensate for latency is cumbersome, weird, inconvenient, and very outdated.
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Can you specifically explain how Plugdata or MaxMsp reports the required delay compensation to DAW?
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This is taken into account when developing the patch itself in MaxMsp, by whoever creates it...
This is not possible in Reaktor....https://cycling74.com/forums/delay-compensation-for-global-transport-sync-with-link
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