Maschine 2 VST3 bug with fixed velocity for note repeat when "lock" is on. How to update?

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guileus
guileus Member Posts: 5 Member
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When using Maschine 2 VST3 as a plugin inside Ableton, I noticed that when you use note repeat with the "lock" feature on, the velocity of the notes is locked to the one of the first note sent when you press the pad (ie. you cannot do a fill where you start pressing the pad more gently and press harder to increase the velocity of the subsequent notes).

I found out that this is apparently a bug of earlier versions of Maschine 2. Now here comes the tricky thing: my Maschine 2 standalone software doesn't have this bug, as it's up to date. But the VST3 is apparently stuck in an earlier version!

Is that something normal? Shouldn't both be the same version? How can I update the VST3? Tried uninstalling and reinstalling several times, but no luck.

hanks in advance.

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  • guileus
    guileus Member Posts: 5 Member
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    Thank you guys, I did what you suggested and it finally fixed it.
    I think part of my problem was using a different VST3 folder, which kind of created a mess of plugins. I deleted all of them, uninstalled and reinstalled and it finally showed both the standalone and plugins sharing the same version.

    Thanks a lot!

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  • mykejb
    mykejb Moderator Posts: 2,609 mod

    They should act the same. Are the version numbers on the standalone and the plugin the same? It might be there's an older version of the VST lurking around.

  • guileus
    guileus Member Posts: 5 Member

    No, the version numbers are different (not at home right now so I can't tell exactly, but I remember I checked it). Do you know any way to specifically update the VST?

  • mykejb
    mykejb Moderator Posts: 2,609 mod

    Are you on a PC or a Mac? If it's a PC do a search on your drive for Maschine*.vst3 and check that there's only one version of it present in the VST3 folder in C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3. If there are other copies you can delete them then see if that makes a difference. If you delete other copies and find you can't load the VST anymore check that Ableton is set to use the System VST3 path in preferences.

    Also, check that you're actually using the VST3 version and not an older version of the VST2 that might be lying around somewhere.

    If you're on a Mac let us know and I'll look out the correct paths to search.

  • guileus
    guileus Member Posts: 5 Member

    I'm on PC and did the VST cleanup you suggested. Then uninstalled everything and resintalled, but to no avail. Will try again this afternoon. AFAIK Maschine installs the plugin when installing the software through Native Access right?

  • mykejb
    mykejb Moderator Posts: 2,609 mod

    Yes it should do - what versions do the standalone and VST versions show you ?

  • guileus
    guileus Member Posts: 5 Member
    edited April 12

    Maschine standalone is 2.18.4

    Maschine VST3 plugin is 2.18.1

    How can I update the plugin version?

    The bug is annoying as when I'm performing live I like to leave it on lock in order to play fills or 1/16th note arpeggios etc (when you have "lock" on, you can't access the sound parameters, like for instance the ADSR envelope on Sampler, which I like to use to manipulate the sample decay while playing fills and stuff like that).

  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 5,857 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/221332#Comment_221332

    Try deleting the plugin and do a reinstall through Native Access

  • mykejb
    mykejb Moderator Posts: 2,609 mod

    I just did a clean install from Native Access and both the app and VST2/3 plugins were 2.18.4

    As @Kymeia suggests try uninstalling Maschine from Control Panel, search for and manually delete any Maschine DLL/VST3 files then do an installation from Native Access again.

  • guileus
    guileus Member Posts: 5 Member
    Answer ✓

    Thank you guys, I did what you suggested and it finally fixed it.
    I think part of my problem was using a different VST3 folder, which kind of created a mess of plugins. I deleted all of them, uninstalled and reinstalled and it finally showed both the standalone and plugins sharing the same version.

    Thanks a lot!

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