NAMM 2025: Introducing the NKS Hardware Partner Program

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  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 5,616 mod

    Yeah me too

  • GarethT
    GarethT Member Posts: 1 Member
  • Psyearth5
    Psyearth5 Member Posts: 389 Member

    You are talking about different kind of expectation from the products, in this case Software.

    I need efficientcy and I will make my own Granular Synth in Maschine Plus Standalone. I will record Polysnth to get Wave Table Sample or I would use a computer but I will be cearful how much time I spent while sitting to the computer.

    I have Friend who teached me to Adobe and 3D Ma X. We were happy with Big salaries but over the time it's becoming boring. Music is journey and I achieved maximum as one person ( I really mean maximum) I realized that only people together can do more and It is best experience especially when two ideas or two Worlds collide.

    No one asked me about Maschine features. And I solved my annoying problem by making 70 slices and College was happy and surprised so much that now he is waiting because I am late. I had some kind of blockade with over 100 track and majority are finished including Master and I didn't do anything.

    I don't need new synth or pigments when I can make music and Listeners will be listening same as they did, in the context.

    My first Push had wobbly Encoders like it was a scam packaged and sold as New. Maschine MK3 had familiar problem and only Nektar and Arturia Wood & steel are good.

    M+ is excellent with the TLC but I connect T4 and separate different MIDI channels so I can play because that's what is important.

    New NKS integration with new product is something I can't love. It's not like working without the keyboard and mouse. New NEKTAR is just changing presets and the rest is very limited. I don't know about Launchpad MK4 but I know Micro freak and how it would be honest to make module and not strange hybrids. Black Colors so I can operate precisely in the Dark Clubs ☝️🤣 I am laphing but I don't think about me or you but situation which is to

    o much sometimes.

  • MLARS
    MLARS Member Posts: 276 Pro
    edited March 15

    No I am talking about Native instruments lagging behind Arturia in the synth product category.

    Yes, mixers and producers can make wonders with old hardware and software (some pros use very old plugin too when mixing, or old classic synth software), but I am talking mainly about competitive edge in new products and to either refine or break new grounds.

    Props to everyone who makes great stuff with simple means, but again that is a different conversation from what I just had in the thread which focused on future product releases.

  • MaikR
    MaikR Member Posts: 450 Guru

    Maybe not just NKS compatibility… there are some rumors…

  • djadidai
    djadidai Member Posts: 570 Pro

    what what what whaaaaat? Ableton buys NI and sends replacement cpu to M+ owners and adapts Maschine workflow in Ableton? Seamless merger?

  • MaikR
    MaikR Member Posts: 450 Guru

    Possibly, soon… 😅

    But for now I would think ‘investment group’, and of course the mentioned NKS and/or Live packs.

  • Psyearth5
    Psyearth5 Member Posts: 389 Member

    When Cubase released first VST instrument (ever) it was hard to accept back then as a new reality, it was strange because sound was better, more accurate then any 3 OSC synth but automation, wow it was and still is amazing.

    I will just scratch the surface with Razor and ability to change density of the particle's making it like nothing else, simple sounds are suddenly full of details and finally it's possible to create unbelievable or impossible

    textures.

    Those from Arturia are saying the same or the opposite to what you claiming and it's personal preference.

    load wav in Massive X or in Kontakt and that's it. all popular features in it's best but just Micro Prism is so much better from HW modal synthesizers…

    Arturia is enough for creating music but i don't see advantage honestly. At the end sounds must work together and then it's totally opposite situation in which you sacrifice to get more and that's '' less is more'' situation. You should be making music using just one type of synth or just Arturia and choose what you think is the best. Then you will be already on the right side producing with the better Company software like Arturia.

    Emulation of vintage is for the listener something of the context and no one will be asking about which software u used, that's why you should be curious and exploring but reality of listening music is the context in which it have the perfect moment and maybe a catch to hold listeners to come back.

    living a Music Genre in a Life style is past, even Metal listeners were thanking me or putting me on playlists because they are in to the moods just like we all are. my no drums music touched what's metal is bass, lead, place for vocal and someone liked in that time and it was interesting to listen. I can't believe in better software but i understand what is personal preference.

    Without Maschine i wouldn't be insisting on using and exploring NI SOFTWARE, compatibility is important.

    SKIP IF YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED

    Don't think i don't understand you. I can confirm that what you talking about is almost irrelevant and i have example a real world example of how producers are trying to achieve the famous sound and in the circle of every major laible is special in most cases different synt's playing and what's more ironical those are samples and simple FX so it's like this, if you creating full sound morphing in sequence it is what in those circle we agree or some samples just appear but it's sesona sound signature. I think that it is a stage when artists should choose after some experience to go to Collective. i didn't see not once "special secret vst-i"

    prefered is something that's majority agreed so Serum, Vital but Massive and Massive X with all kind's wavetable abilities. you can load wav in massive and if it's not phase close enough to show you that it's all almost like the same manufacturer. Cubase is having example of every type of Synth and they are Amazing especially Loop Mesh 2 or just literally every Steinberg VST and VSTi.

    arturia is great but i see people skipping it to the next better version from different manufacturer but it;s point to learn and use tools so you can achieve what you want because i don't know where you can hear sound quality in a Mix where sounds should working together with sacrificing there's frequency texture's, shapes etc..

    NI is offering enough for every genre out there. You can even design your own real caustics sound's and play them like they are real. sound's are good depending on the mix and in a state of preview it's not what's matter but all categories are filed up to the repetition of Pad's but in general one pad without morphing just a mix of osc is something that is perfect for Maschine presentation of the capabilities.

    i have friends who never used anything from Arturia's collection that they got with MIDI's and i was telling them how i would use what i got and that's what was basic Arturias collection.

    I remember Reaktor as a today historical software for Creating Techno and all subgenres.

    just Razor alone(particle's can be risen up to grain density overcoming competition like there's no competition ) is beyond of what all other VST's are aiming for but again you are right because it's personal preference. I found my self in new environment with synth's i didn't use so much but i accepted it as a challenge. it wasn't harder then Video Games.

    some kind of block during the creation process is what we all feel and we need to overcome it somehow, one of the best known way is too watch equipment and thinking how it's the solution which could be for some time but fast workflow is what's Maschine is offering and that's like band and guitar player, better sound and good musicians is not what is the problem and it's FX board those that can help to the overall sound from the basic Tremolo,Vibrato ect.

    did you made it better with Arturia plugins and

  • Super8boy
    Super8boy Member Posts: 140 Advisor

    Jesus that's a lot of waffling. I'm struggling to see any point if I'm honest, but as long as it makes sense to you 😉

  • Sunborn
    Sunborn NKS User Library Mod Posts: 3,574 mod
    edited March 20

    eh… don't waste time to see any point… there is none… it is always the same with him, no matter how many advises, complains, warnings, even spam marks he gets, he continue posting things that make sense to him only… i gave up reading him, long ago… yet, as long as he is not violating any rules, of course he is entitled to express himself as he wants… 🙄

    My guess however is, a language problem. Too many thoughts (some of them interesting) to express, but very wrong way to connect them and write them, in a language that most probably is not his mother language and he barely understands…

  • MLARS
    MLARS Member Posts: 276 Pro
    edited March 20

    Please look at your text with more thoughtful sober eyes before publishing. I am not responding to this. I agreed with you that many use the instruments they already know and like and that is perfectly fine. My thoughts in this thread is about recent and future product releases.

    In other news, we not only got Pigments 6 recently but Serum 2 was finally released - still no NKS it seems.

  • Psyearth5
    Psyearth5 Member Posts: 389 Member
    edited March 23

    Serum 2 is a mess and Reaktor had sounds with wave shapes generator for infinite combinations of everything just like Serum 2 a Monster Mutant not a natural evolution but it's OK. NKS partnership with Nektar was my hope and when I I saw in what way and how much compatibility is an advantage, I was honestly disappointed and I would like better quality HW.

    I am impressed with Mechanical Waves and I like looking for new creative solutions and I didn't want to bother you.

  • Psyearth5
    Psyearth5 Member Posts: 389 Member

    Everything can be improved but as we get older we can recognize patterns or something like Serum 2 😂 I honestly get it and I don't have anything against but it's just lack of Creativity and Honesty.

    Basic Module is less Demanding and more accurate which is making it easy to understand and use, then multiple simple FX and there it is an Original, it's sounds like Wave Table but it's not.

    It's easy to do Complex Sounds very fast using internal plugins and what is puzzling many is what is playing those sounds and I don't hide anything and I say it's Toms, percussions with FM AM and delay and of course 6 Group FX doing the transition at the same time or just creating extra layer on top of already Resampled recording which is pitched an octave lower and it's deep full of details.

    Arturia is or would be just another alternative tool for creating just like every other Company but in the essence everything is simple and it's easy to not believe because simplicity is too easy in theory but in practice it's about the Creativity and it's demanding process. It's not about new VSTi but something personal.

    Whatever you use I would like to listen something different and I never think about how it was made because Music have a context and Listeners are listening in context.

  • Rotem
    Rotem Member Posts: 1 Newcomer

    Are more plugins coming for NKS? Would love using them with my Maschine + in controller mode and the S88 mk2, had great fun with the NKS compatible Arturia plugins.

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