Difference between Maschine and Kontakt

grayv
grayv Member Posts: 5 Newcomer
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Hi, total newbie - a little confused as to when I use the Maschine controller and when I use Kontakt. And the shop says kits are available for Kontakt - can I use them with Maschine? I want basic drums but it doesnt appear to come with my Micro 3. Most are combo drums and instruments

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  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 4,214 mod

    Hello,

    maschine has a sequencer, automation and can load lots of vst instruments and FX. Kontakt is a sampler with many very good instruments available. What do you mean with a basic drum kit, a real world sampled one?

  • grayv
    grayv Member Posts: 5 Newcomer

    I am making my own music and I have everything but drums. I was looking for a way of laying down simple drum beats. The Maschine makes sense but the Kontakt doesn't look like my Micro - it has a tiny keyboard layout. If I buy a Kontact drum set like Abbey Road, does it appear on my list of Maschine drums? Should I make a custom drum group on Maschine with various drum sounds from other groups? I don't need guitar or keyboard sounds - I can do that with my instruments. I also don't know the difference btwn a sequencer or a sampler

  • Cretin Dilettante
    Cretin Dilettante Member Posts: 222 Pro
    edited January 24

    Whenever you load one of Kontakt's Drum-Oriented libraries, Maschine tends to load it onto a single pad/sound slot. In order to finger-drum & sequence those libraries, you'll need to be in "keyboard mode", since the drum samples are usually assigned to specific pitches.

    A sequencer is a device/interface for transcribing & representing musical information, both in terms of rhythm and pitch. A sampler is a device that is capable of recording, manipulating, and playing back audio data that is recorded from any given sound source. You may even sample audio from within Maschine; this process is called resampling. You might experiment with sequencing a drum pattern, and then routing the audio from that Drum group to another pad to be resampled as a loop; then, you might use Maschine's "slice/zone" feature to chop up and distribute the slices across Maschine's various pads. Then, you could sequence those slices to construct variations of that original loop. The possibilities are wide open!

  • grayv
    grayv Member Posts: 5 Newcomer

    Wow! more questions

    1. Can I buy a Kontakt drum kit and then would it show up automatically on Maschine? I ask because in the video tutorial, the guy has Abbey Road drums listed on his Maschine. In the store, however, it is listed as a Kontakt file.
    2. If I buy the Kontakt file, do I just separate the sounds, chopping them up as you suggest?
    3. Isn't there a place to buy Maschine drum kits - exclusively drums, no other instruments?
    4. All of the sounds included in my library are about half drum, half keyboard (or guitar)

    I'm just unclear on where the Kontakt stuff fits into my new Maschine

  • Cretin Dilettante
    Cretin Dilettante Member Posts: 222 Pro
    edited January 24
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/206269#Comment_206269
    1. Yeah, I'm pretty sure all Native Instruments stuff will show up in the browser. The browser shows you all of your content, regardless of what company made it or what app it's for. Maschine Expansions, Kontakt Libraries, Reaktor ensembles, and VST Plugins will all show up within that interface.

    2. No. You load up an instance of Kontakt (or Kontakt Player) as a plugin within Maschine. Resampling is just a creative use of the Sampler, and the example was meant to reinforce the notion that Samplers deal with any/all forms of audio (including Audio that originates from a piece of music that you wrote).

      3. You can buy Expansions for Maschine via Native Instruments' shop, but they come with whatever they come with…typically, Maschine Expansions come with a bunch of drum samples, loops of various kinds, midi patterns, curated groups of sound that you can just automatically load in Maschine, and presets for Native Instruments' VST Plugins. (usually Massive & Monark presets are included).

  • grayv
    grayv Member Posts: 5 Newcomer

    This is what I see on Kontakt or Leap - it doesn't seem to have any connection with Maschine whatsoever

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  • Cretin Dilettante
    Cretin Dilettante Member Posts: 222 Pro

    I should have clarified that you may use Kontakt as either: A standalone application, or a VST Plugin within a Host (whether that is Maschine or your DAW). What you're looking at right now is the standalone application for Kontakt.

  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 4,214 mod
    leap in maschine.png

    you can open kontakt within maschine and then open the leap expansions, i just found no way to browse them directly from maschines browser like with all the other kontakt stuff.

  • ALDREAD
    ALDREAD Member Posts: 283 Pro
    edited January 26
    https://youtu.be/ESbOxx5TtIk

    this might be useful , from here https://blog.native-instruments.com/leap-looper-vst/

    On another note maybe check out battery 4 ( comes with komplete select hip hop version ) I’m sure those kit are usable in maschine as groups

  • grayv
    grayv Member Posts: 5 Newcomer

    Thanks for your help - you gave me a lot of info to process

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