NAMM 2025: Introducing the NKS Hardware Partner Program

More support would be nice indeed.

But the “conversion software” is not messy at all.

You literally have to take only 3 steps: say what expansion you want, say for which program (let’s say Ableton Live) and push start.

It will convert ALL kits of that expansion in Ableton format automatically.

Not too difficult

True, not in this thread before now.

Well…no…but ok

After a lot of “why” and criticisms by my side, I would also say something to people who are starting to ask “do I have to pay for that?”.

I think this is not a good direction to take.

In my opinion, we the users should start to think that it is sometimes correct to pay for some things.

I would really like to see companies thinking “I’ll add this or that to our existing products to make them better and ask for the correct price for the work done”.

In this way everyone would win: the users having their devices improved and the companies having a cash flow to remain healthy and to invest in future things. And a reason to put work in improving things (and improving it with good stuffs, otherwise users won’t buy them), instead of abandoning them to prioritize other things that can be sold.

The idea of updates having to be free is, imo, not correct and not healthy.

I do understand that in a case like this (the Expansions) it could seem that they are asking for money for something we already paid for. But what we paid for were those Expansions for Maschine. Now they had to put work in order to make them available for a different platform. And what we would pay for is this work.

Of course the price must be right for people who already bought them.

Continuing to demand for free stuff is of course making us spare money in the short term, but will soon force us to buy something new, since what we already bought will be abandoned because it’s not profitable for the company anymore.

I don’t think anyone of us would accept to be asked to work for free, unless when we had been paid for the work we would have charged enough money also for the future work. This is what they are doing when charging us the price for the things we buy: they calculate at what price they can sell it, including the costs of development, manufacturing and a series of updates for a certain period. But after a while, more ulterior work could be put on it… but correctly asking for the price of this work.

The only thing that goes beyond this reasoning imo are fixes. If something has not been made correctly or brakes, it is in the company’s duties to fix what they have done wrong

The process is short with conversion software, what I mean with mess is that it may lead to a lot of duplicate samples (which is annoying). Of course conversion software is one way to solve it, but cross platform solutions would be nice to streamline the process even further.

I suspect the “duplicate sample” will be there anyway, with the new versions of the expansions.

In any case, as I said, yes…more support would be nice.

I named conversion softwares just to underline that I find this move from NI strange. Specially considering the little strengths they have to invest.
Finding it strange which doesn’t mean I don’t understand it: it will generate sales. And that is what they are after

From:

Battery

Komplete kontrol

Kontakt

Maschine

Massive x....

List goes on not finished and promises on soon quarter 5,6,7,8.. now when we respond negativity mods go quite. All we keep hearing is the team is working on it. Do NI keep paying this team to not produce and what beta team takes this long..

Would love to see mixing hardware like the Softube Console 1 to join the NKS partner program in the Effects category.