Using Komplete Kontrol Software with Maschine MK3 hardware

CaptainCubase
CaptainCubase Member Posts: 2 Newcomer
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Hi everybody,

Hope everyone is doing well, I got a little question can I use the KK software with Maschine MK3 hardware? Actually the Komplete Kontrol MK2 and Maschine MK3 got the same interface with two screen and the same controller (button etc…).

Maybe I missed something with Maschine 3.0, but I always got that disgusting windows of Maschine 3.0 (who take all the screen even if I got a second one) when I use it to control some VST with the NKS… there is any option to make it disappears but keep the windows of the instruments?

I got a Roland master keyboard and I would like to control some VSTi (compatible with NKS) via my Maschine MK3 hardware for the benefits of the NKS. 4 years ago the support told me it's not possible, but with the update of Maschine 3.0, maybe there is a "no daw" mode to not get that shitt* double windows and get a DAW inside another DAW. Honestly it's look like native dev are on white powder to not even think about it…

(English is not my native language, hope i'm clear and sorry if I did some mistake)

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  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 4,019 mod
    Answer ✓

    Hello,

    if you really wanna use it cause of the nks features and all that use maschine instances you have the display and everything. But you can use maschine in midi mode and learn the 8 knobs and 6 buttons if i remember correctly and use it that way with maschine but then you loose the displays and other stuff. Open up KK within cubase or stand alone, the kk keyboard tuned off, then you see "MIDI" in the upper left area, just click it and you will see, you can also do that with kk stand alone.

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  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 4,019 mod
    Answer ✓

    Hello,

    if you really wanna use it cause of the nks features and all that use maschine instances you have the display and everything. But you can use maschine in midi mode and learn the 8 knobs and 6 buttons if i remember correctly and use it that way with maschine but then you loose the displays and other stuff. Open up KK within cubase or stand alone, the kk keyboard tuned off, then you see "MIDI" in the upper left area, just click it and you will see, you can also do that with kk stand alone.

  • CaptainCubase
    CaptainCubase Member Posts: 2 Newcomer
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/197138#Comment_197138

    Hi ! Thanks for your time and the answer, actually I know exactly what you are talking about ! I already did it, but it's kind of boring to spend time to program everything and at the end you can not even using the NKS, when NI sells you "NKS is a game changer blablablabla", anyway I read somewhere else we can always not get the Maschine VSTi with a "no daw mode" to remove that cheap Maschine DAW software so I just gave up and put it back in the box, I don't really know where NI is going, new cheap logo who got 0 identity, no major update with Maschine… At least, I hope they will keep sniffing white powder to enjoy their "job", honestly it's pretty disgusting how they manage their product ! I remember 15 years ago, the company was not like that !😂

  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 4,019 mod

    That's not true, after that mapping you use nks, you have the mapping with rows of 8 encoders. You only do have the browsers search function on 3rd party controllers or maschine in this case. But with the buttons you can jump through patches and the control pages.

  • iNate
    iNate Member Posts: 250 Advisor
    edited December 13

    Komplete Kontrol doesn't work with Maschine. NI wants you to buy a Komplete Kontrol controller.

    Maschine only supports NKS in the Mashchine software. The screens, encoders, etc. work better with Bitwig Studio than their own Komplete Kontrol software.

    If you will be using NI software with something other than Maschine most of the time, you are better off getting Komplete Kontrol S-Series and a competing - cheaper - pad controller (like Nectar Aruba). It's only worth it if you will be using Maschine 2/3 a ton, or a DAW (like Bitwig) which has retrofit support for those controllers…

    And in the latter it's hard to justify the cost over a Launchkey Mini, which has 16 usable pads.

    This is why the S Series have no pads and the Maschine controllers do not work with Komplete Kontrol. They want you to buy two controllers.

    S Series + Maschine Mikro for PC DAW users, or A Series and Maschine MK3 for Maschine users…

    A + Mikro/S + MK3 for people who are on a budget or have more disposable income. In any of those scenarios, they increase their profit margins on that one user.

  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 4,019 mod
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/197541#Comment_197541

    wrong - it works like with any other generic controller, but of course not like with a kontrol keyboard but you have the mapped controls and more

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