Lifehack for Maschine plus. Do you want M.2 NVME SSD inside? I really wanted it, and I got it!

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  • Alexios
    Alexios Member Posts: 105 Advisor
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/195070#Comment_195070

    Thanks for the advice, I also have an alloy of Wood and Rose.

  • myalteredsoul
    myalteredsoul Member Posts: 232 Advisor
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/195091#Comment_195091

    This is correct. Even if you have a thumb drive inserted, it will only work as a controller and not pick up the thumb drive. So, it's not likely it will recognize the SSD.

  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,575 mod
    edited December 2

    @Alexios said:

    it won't work without an adapter, chips down - it's not logical. 

    Sorry, I have no ideia what you mean by that.

    nvme physically won't fit in there, look where the jumper is.

    What jumper? The notch key? AFAIK thats used to differentiate NVME from SATA SSD's but there are connectors compatible with both. Inspect the connector on the M+ with a flash light and see if there any notch blockers. Oddly, your "nvme" adapter actually has the SATA type of connector/notches according to this:

    https://www.kingston.com/en/blog/pc-performance/two-types-m2-vs-ssd

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    If you're talking about physical size/length then NVME's have different sizes, thats why i said 2230

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    And I checked it first on a mini PC. The speed is 1500 for writing and reading. How did you check?

    I didn't check, as I didn't do this mod. Speed can be bottlenecked by many things, like how many PCIe lanes the connector/cpu/board supports… On a regular computer (ATX) the first PCIe slot is ussually x16 lanes (for extreme things like GPU), then the 2nd is x8, then x4 for the tiny ones.

    https://www.electronicshub.org/how-many-pcie-lanes-do-i-have/

    But on that M+ board it's says "x1" and M. 2 NVMe SSDs require x4 PCIe lanes. That 1x could mean something else, but i doubt it. This would actually explain why WI-FI downloads on the M+ suck so bad…

    If it is indeed x1 then SSD will run much slower on the M+ than it does on your mini PC.

  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,575 mod
    edited December 2
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/195098#Comment_195098

    Yes, but the "thumb drive" is external and accounted for by the software… While the SSD mod OP made is internal, connected to the exact same board place as the SD, and not accounted for, so it was worth a shot.

    I'd try first formatting and naming it the same as an SD formated in the M+ (a volume named Maschine+), make sure to boot the M+ without an SD in case it might think the SSD is the SD based on volume name. If that fails theres cloning tricks to assign a volume the same UUID as the SD, but again… these are all longshots.

  • Alexios
    Alexios Member Posts: 105 Advisor
    edited December 2
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/195109#Comment_195109

    Sorry google translator. If we assume PCIe 4.0 x1 version then almost 2GB/s.

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  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,575 mod
    edited December 2
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/195132#Comment_195132

    No prob. Hahah I wish, nah… this is a low end embedded system, it has PCIe 2.0. It takes a while for even normal computers start adopting new PCIe generations.

    The M+ CPU itself only has 6 total lanes.

    https://www.congatec.com/us/products/qseven/conga-qa5/

    https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/96485/intel-atom-x5e3940-processor-2m-cache-up-to-1-80-ghz/specifications.html

    Anyway, assuming theres no loss from the adapter, 500 MB/s is still super fast… But more SATA speed than NVME.

  • Alexios
    Alexios Member Posts: 105 Advisor
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/195137#Comment_195137

    Yes, 500mb/s suits me fine.

  • Psyearth5
    Psyearth5 Member Posts: 334 Member

    more important is USB storage ability so i could transfer files to mobile phone and not always need Computer!? i can make good, solid amazing quality sound music in standalone mode and it`s about file transfer more then SSD M2 speed because i am easy to turn 10 tracks as groups one after another extending Music to longer more pleasant sounding compositions. SSD would make…RAM will be SSD because Resources are needed for something else and Computers in the Future, next year RAM will change architecture like whole Computer to consume less with same or better performance.

    SSD M2 is beneficial
    in all capacity only with specific IO to guide write and ride.

    PS5 is designed for M2 optimal maximization and in DREAMS 96khz Audios in more than 100 channels is not a challenge, it`s Amazing but it`s not close to Maschine Musical input and it is possible to transfer files to USB.

    USB storage like we all know is more needed then next gen of Maschine or having a choise but USB storage.

    i need to go outside or to transfer m+ work and use it for easy add on different project, maybe Collab or just need a brake walking and listening music i made. I am not the only one, PUSH standalone would be horror for me after M+.

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