DJM A9 and Traktor

Pepeeeeeee
Pepeeeeeee Member Posts: 26 Member
in Traktor Software & Hardware

Good afternoon, I would like to ask you a question...
The DJM A9 console already appears on the pioneer website as a successor to the DJM-900NXS2, why haven't they included support for TRAKTOR?,When it has traktor support.


I'm about to buy a Pioneer table but the DJM 750 mk2 I think that given the time it has been on the market it has little left for an update and the DJM-900NXS2 is no longer manufactured so the candidate is the DJM A9 but I don't understand why not supports traktor.

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  • Owner
    Owner Member Posts: 564 Guru
    edited October 11

    I played on different venues so far on a DJM-A9 with Traktor and it works fine. I tested it with TP4.0 and with TP3.7.1 e.g. without any problems. What exactly do you mean with no support for it?

    Btw: If you had searched the forum before posting, you would have come across several other entries that also confirm that there are no problems.

  • lord-carlos
    lord-carlos Member Posts: 3,582 Expert

    If your os supports it, so should traktor. It's just an audio interface.

  • Dj Davidoff
    Dj Davidoff Member Posts: 31 Helper

    I have been DJing with Pioneer DJM-A9 for several months in combination with TP2.11.3.17 or TP3.11.1.17. and have had no problems at all. For now I am not using TP4.02.13 in live situations

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  • Patch
    Patch Member Posts: 317 Pro

    If you can afford the A9, you shouldn't also be looking at the 750, mate…

  • Dj Davidoff
    Dj Davidoff Member Posts: 31 Helper
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/183458#Comment_183458

    I also have that one and use it when 2 sound cards are not needed

  • Pepeeeeeee
    Pepeeeeeee Member Posts: 26 Member

    Hello, thanks for the clarifications.
    If I also looked at other threads referring to this topic but they are not entirely clear, that the DJM A9 supports traktor with X1 and also time controllers with two technisc, this would be my set. Nose sizes are workable.
    I currently have two KONTROL D2 and an X1 and two technics and a MAC. I don't know if the A9 fits in this set if it is an official tractor.
    Thanks, regards.

  • lord-carlos
    lord-carlos Member Posts: 3,582 Expert
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/183589#Comment_183589

    The A9 is a soundcard. It does not care how you control Traktor. No matter if you use a keyboard, mouse, x1, D2…

    The only thing we have to figure out is if phono/Dvs input work. Some older DJM mixers blocked that to 3rd party software. But I don't think that is the case with the A9.

  • Pepeeeeeee
    Pepeeeeeee Member Posts: 26 Member

    Thanks señor carlos , it would be good to know if anyone uses traktor time controllers with the A9

  • Owner
    Owner Member Posts: 564 Guru
    edited October 11
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/183590#Comment_183590

    Yes, it works with DVS → 100%

    Which DJM do you mean with "Some older DJM mixers blocked that"? I was always able to play with a DJM mixer and DVS. Never run into an issue with something blocked on Pioneer wise.

    Edit: OK, my grey brain cells have finally spit out something on this. Could it be that you meant the DJM 2000? I think I had problems with that one in the past...

  • Owner
    Owner Member Posts: 564 Guru
    edited October 11
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/183593#Comment_183593

    I was always playing on it with Timecode (DVS) and / or Phase. It works.

    Edit: See the post from @Dj Davidoff. He explained and showed it perfectly how to set it up. The only thing missing now is the driver, which you can find on the Pioneer site, so that you can call up the setup utility from the Mixer itself. There you can then switch the input signal from timecode/phono to line, or vice versa.

  • lord-carlos
    lord-carlos Member Posts: 3,582 Expert
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/183613#Comment_183613

    I can't remember the details, but I think it was the 250 mk2? And maybe also the 4XX and DJM-750MK2?

    The software has to do a handshake with the mixer in a regular interval, else it will block the phono port from USB audio interface :)))) Traktor was allowed to use it.

    Someone blogged about the technical details:

    https://blog.frantovo.cz/c/387/Pioneer%20DJ%20DJM-250MK2%20support%20in%20the%20Linux%20kernel

    You can also find People having trouble with the mixer in this forum. Sometimes it just does not work, because something goes wrong between the handshake of Traktor and the mixer.

  • Owner
    Owner Member Posts: 564 Guru
    edited October 11
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/183615#Comment_183615

    You mean that Traktor is always so friendly and shakes hands diligently? 😀

    The mixers you listed (250 / 450 / 750) are all officially "certified".

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    Hm, interesting Link, thanks for that. I've just read through the article. It doesn't seem to be a typical problem to me. But Linux is foreign to me anyway, so I don't really understand it. With macOS I've never had the problem that they didn't shake hands well :)

    But I think it was different with the DJM 2000. The USB interface of it does not have enough input channels to support DVS (it only has one input, or zero, depending on the configuration).

  • lord-carlos
    lord-carlos Member Posts: 3,582 Expert
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/183620#Comment_183620

    The article has two parts. One is the linux driver, with is not important here. And the other part is the handshake from the DJ application, which has to do the handshake. NI probably got in dialog with Pioneer to get certified and then pioneer told them how to implement the handshake.

  • Pepeeeeeee
    Pepeeeeeee Member Posts: 26 Member
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/183620#Comment_183620

    All this is what appears from Pioneer, which certifies the DJM 900 table with a direct link to Traktor, with the A9 being its successor. I do not understand why it is not certified or gives the option to do so.
    I'm scared to buy the A9 and for some reason it doesn't communicate well with mac traktor and the x1 or the DVS with technics

  • Owner
    Owner Member Posts: 564 Guru
    edited October 11

    We can definitely sort out the X1 and the Technics, they're not relevant.

    Look, several people have now told you that there are no problems. I can only repeat that your concerns are not plausible. Otherwise, show why it shouldn't work. Are there any articles, forum posts or videos that describe problems with the A9 and Traktor?

    By the way, Traktor mentioned the DJM-A9 in the TP4 release notes and it's new added auto config function (along with the Reloop Flux). Why would they do that if it wasn't going to work?

    https://support.native-instruments.com/hc/de/articles/360017233958-What-s-New-in-Traktor-Pro-4

    Many sound cards and mixers are not officially listed as "Scratch Certified" and yet there are no problems with them. I use a RANE SL4 / DJM-S9 / DJM-S11 / Reloop Elite and Flux for years now, e.g.

    BTW: If you have the money for an A9, then I would recommend the DJM-V10 anyway, the mixer is a lot better in my opinion!

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