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I agree this is another something that NI seem to be passively hiding at the moment. I did check on the NI Kontakt product page for requirements and I couldn't find a thing about KK 2.9.6 support or otherwise…
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Well - since it is now confirmed as not supported - I wouldn't expect to see any mention of it.
I am very glad I found this out before making any upgrade moves.
VP
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But shouldn't there be a mention of a requirement for KK 3 or above though…
Certainly something to think about for KK 2.9.6 users (MK1 or MK2 owners) before they take the plunge into Kontakt 8 or any of the new Kompletes.
As a Komplete 14 CE owner and MK1 user, I will not be venturing into Komplete 15 unless my MK1 dies soon…
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It is probably implied - but yeah - I can see that.
I am sensing that with everything else that is going on right now - this is not a high priority update to make on the web site - which let's face it - has always run well behind the times.
VP
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Yes.
I opened Kontakt 7 as a standalone, let it update and closed it.
I then opened Kontakt 8 Player as a standalone and let it update and closed it.
Then I opened Komplete Kontrol 2.9.6 and it was totally screwed. Nothing opens and every library or instrument gives that error message.
Removing Kontakt 8 Player (which is a pain as obviously there is no uninstaller like normal companies make) totally resolves the problem. Everything works perfectly again.
I can only imagine the effect Kontakt 8 is going to have on the years of tracks I have recored using Kontakt 7. Where every single instance is likely to require correction. So the more music you've made, the more havoc this version will bring.3 -
Why did it take 22 pages of this thread to get to the information that KK 2.9.6 doesn't play with Kontakt 8!
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Is there a (good) reason that Kontakt 8 (like Kontakt 7) includes the name change that kills prior projects? I understand that VST3 allows for autoloading the new version of Kontakt instead, but wouldn’t it be better to just leave the new version named “Kontakt.” They are backwards compatible, are they not?
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If you uninstall Kontakt 7 after installing Kontakt 8, will DAW projects made with the Kontakt 7 VST open Kontakt 8 VST in it's place? That's always my concern when new versions come out.
Apologies if this has already been asked.
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I would very strongly advise anyone who is interested in upgrading to Kontakt. 8 to instal the free Kontakt 8 Player. That will give you an idea of just how successful (or not) migration to this new version will be.
I've found that for me with my set up of Kontakt 7, Komplete Kontrol 2.9.6 and an expensive S1 Mk 1, it's a total disaster. So it's very much worth trying before you buy.
I'd love it if NI were a bit more interested in continuing to support instruments and software that is used by their existing customers when they update stuff rather than discontinuing things because they've lost interest in instruments that are barely a decade old.
I love the look of all the new features, but until I fully upgrade my studio, I'm not spending £1,200 odd on new hardware and software just so I can make NI's new stuff do what their old stuff is already doing.5 -
I'm assuming that the VST ID has been changed so people who want to continue using K7 can do so. If every instance of K7 was changed to K8 with no notice there'd be uproar, and I'd be near the front of the queue with a virtual pitchfork! Don't forget we already have a "Kontakt" which is actually "Kontakt 6".
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Only if you use Cubase/Nuendo or Logic.
Every other DAW out there has no form of "auto-migration" and you will be on your own to hack thru it manually replacing all instances of K7 (if you uninstalled it) with K8.
VP
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Yes.
I opened Kontakt 7 as a standalone, let it update and closed it.
I then opened Kontakt 8 Player as a standalone and let it update and closed it.
Then I opened Komplete Kontrol 2.9.6 and it was totally screwed. Nothing opens and every library or instrument gives that error message.
Thank you for the added explanation. I only asked to be sure that you could not fix problem by doing so.
Alas I don't think that N.I. is going to do anything about compatibility of K8 with Komplete Kontrol 2.9.6.
In the above Matthew_NI were asked : Can KK 2.9.6 load and work seamlessly with Kontakt 8 as it does with prior versions?
To which Matthew_NI responded : KK 2.9.6 is not actively supported, so we've neither actively blocked nor tested this.
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And rather than getting all annoyed and angry about this, I have a suggestion for NI regarding the S1 Mk1.
Why not offer some kind of serious buy back/trade in scheme for your obsolete technologies? Something that encourages your existing users to upgrade while rewarding them for having purchased and used NI stuff for a long time. And I don't mean just bundling in some software because that's useless to me as I already own it (multiple times in some cases).
I'd love to see a £200 - £300 trade in for upgrading my current S1 mk1 49 key to a mk3 49key or a mk3 61 key. That would be something I'd take advantage of and see it as something positive NI is doing for me. That's the same value NI is punting to people who buy Komplete 15 right now (assuming they didn't already own Neutron).
I can't believe NI's business model is making controller hardware that they intend to become unusable in 5 - 10 years. That just seems massively counter productive. I'd love it if they turned it around and started rewarding people for buying their products rather than just turning them into bricks.6 -
You will find subbanks in the new sidebar browser as pulldown menu filter, working the same way as in the library overlay browser since an update to kontakt 7.
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