Session Guitarist A#1 start on key

swingmix
swingmix Member Posts: 138 Member
edited October 2024 in Kontakt

I want to start from scratch every time. I set it on start on key
Use A#1 but there is sound every time. If you cancel the sound, the sound is discontinuous again.
So, can we set up a more convenient method? What if I loop a paragraph?
Or set a similar A#1 key to make the sound continuous, but still silent. The sound of A#1 is so annoying.

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  • DunedinDragon
    DunedinDragon Member Posts: 984 Guru
    edited July 2024

    The way you've phrased your question it's confusing what you're trying to do. I think what's happening to you is you may be playing A#3 rather than A#1 which is two octaves below what you're playing. If you display the keyboard tool you'll clearly see where those key switches (red colored) are located and they don't make any sound, they just change the patterns. Those keyswitches go from C1 to G1.

    A1 is actually an ending sustained chord based on the last regular key you played between A2 and G5. I don't know if that's what you're trying to do or not. But if it is, that G1 key remains active and plays the same ending chord until you change it by pressing a different playable key, so if you want to keep playing that ending chord you'd just keep pressing the A#1 key and it will play the same chord.

  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 4,037 mod

    Hello,

    have you also set latch mode, on the playback settings page, to 1/8 shorting the note accordingly + a gap to the next note greater than 1/8, if you make the gap 2/8 it can sometimes retrigger and sometimes not (also with a gap 3/16). I found no other way, a silent stop note or whatever.

  • swingmix
    swingmix Member Posts: 138 Member

    You're not right.
    I am using Studio one, and what I am talking about is A#1. If I do not put an A#1, then even if I set it on start on key, the new chord will not be played from the beginning of the Pattern rhythm, which means that it will continue.

    But this A#1 has a noise. I don't know how to eliminate it.

    You said two octaves below A#1, that's A#-1, which is not functional in NI guitars. Is there a good way I can send you a video?

  • DunedinDragon
    DunedinDragon Member Posts: 984 Guru

    A#1 is a special effect pre-built sound the same as A1. A1 is an ending chord with slide down when you release the key and A#1 is a "chunk" accent. These three keys (G# - A#) are designated as ending keyswitches so in all three cases they play the same as a normal playable key with different variations so there will be a sound as in all other playable keys and that's where I'm getting confused. What exactly are you trying to accomplish in the track with that keyswitch?

  • swingmix
    swingmix Member Posts: 138 Member
    edited July 2024

    For example:
    My chord progressions are C-F
    I want to start over from the left side of the pattern rhythm in the second chord F.
    I need to select 'start on key'
    I still need to use A # 1 to achieve it, but A # 1 also has sound. This design is very strange.

    I said it so clearly, don't you understand what I mean? Do you have any other contact information? I'll give you a 10 second video and you'll understand.

  • DunedinDragon
    DunedinDragon Member Posts: 984 Guru

    Yes I understand now what you're trying to do which is use the first measure of the pattern only on both measures, but using A#1 isn't the correct tool because it has a different purpose in life which is to provide that chunk ending sound. You can't redefine that.

    What you can do is do only hold the first measure just past the count of three and do the same with the second. That will cause the cycle to reset to the beginning of the pattern. Alternatively you can just define a new pattern where the second half is the same as the first. No need for start on key at all in either case.

  • swingmix
    swingmix Member Posts: 138 Member

    hello. thank you. you said:"

    What you can do is do only hold the first measure just past the count of three and do the same with the second. That will cause the cycle to reset to the beginning of the pattern. Alternatively you can just define a new pattern where the second half is the same as the first. "

    I don't understand. Can you use pictures or videos to help me understand what you mean.thanks

  • DunedinDragon
    DunedinDragon Member Posts: 984 Guru
    edited July 2024

    On your MIDI piano roll you make sure the notes are 3 quarter notes plus an 8th note long as shown below. It will still play for the full measure, but the plug in will reset to start at the beginning of the pattern for the next note.

    As far as re-defining the pattern, that's all well described in your documentation for your plugin.

  • swingmix
    swingmix Member Posts: 138 Member

    However, it will continue until F, rather than starting from the left side of the Pattern rhythm.
    Look at the image below and write to MIDI according to your way. Instead of going back to the left yellow position and starting over, continue down from the middle red. In the second chord cannot go back to the left yellow to restart.

  • DunedinDragon
    DunedinDragon Member Posts: 984 Guru
    edited July 2024

    Maybe it's different on your DAW. I'm using Ableton Live and the pattern re-starts at the left at the beginning of the second note. Although I'm doing my tests on Electric Mint, not Acoustic Sunburst Deluxe where the samples may not be the same and require different handling.

  • swingmix
    swingmix Member Posts: 138 Member

    That's very strange. The DAW I use is STUDIO ONE.
    Could you please show me a screenshot of your playback?

  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 4,037 mod

    Have you set latch mode as I wrote and left a gap? Then it surely works I tried it out but as I described with an additional gap - see above

  • DunedinDragon
    DunedinDragon Member Posts: 984 Guru

    Yeah I just adjusted that to 1/8 and it works perfectly to repeat the first phrase over and over.

  • swingmix
    swingmix Member Posts: 138 Member

    Sometimes it's possible, but sometimes it's not. In short, it is very convenient to use cloth.

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