Kontakt 7 very very long to launch

At least they are working on a fix.

When i started my first ticket one year ago, the support tried everything, but nothing worked. I showed him this forum link, that others also have this issue on mac and win, but there was no case, where support was able to solve it, so he told me, he would come back to me, but never heard from him again.

They have been aware about this issue long time ago, but as long as only a few customers are having this issue - there is no reason to act. Now I am happy that much more people have the same issue and now they have to handle it. There was alrady a proposal one year ago - to compare the last working versions and remove the ****** code added, that causes the issue.

With my downgraded version I only miss a battery 4 VST3 Version, everything else they have don in these 16 months, was nothing that I miss. I also got Guitar Rig 7 by a izotope update and have never used it, because of loading time, so i haven't compared these versions. Komplete Kontrol 3 was also a big step in the wrong direction and I hope that they don't destroy Maschine the same way.

Good idea ! Anyone that has slow launching Kontakt 7 please feel free to comment with #FasterLoading as KimChristopher mentioned.

You do realize that K6 is retired and none of the new(er) libraries will ever work with it.

That said - as long as you never use Native Access and never update any of the older K6 libraries (which began transitioning to require K7 (v7.6.0 and higher) in Sept 2023) - you should be good to go.

VP

i also have such a fast computer - everything runs so smooth, except of newer NI stuff.

I don't try out new updates until I read maybe some years later in thhis forum, that the problem has been solved

And I am at 2.3 secs from icon click to UI ready for action. Even more bizarre.

VP

@KimChristopher

“But this is a problem for most us”

I get your specific issue but saying this is effecting “most of us” is a tad dramatic.

There are 10s of thousands of users who never come to this forum who - if they all had a three minute startup - it would be major news.

Do not let this forum represent the real world. It is but a tiny subset.

Earlier today NI had weighed in on these long scan times for Kontakt, NA, KK and Maschine over in the Native Access forum.

It’s a good read and also indicates several problems have been discovered and are being worked on.

Why these issues hit some but not all will be figured out but it is very clear there is something else going on for folks with these long scan times

And I believe it will end up being much more than just Kontakt alone.

VP

my Main SSD has chrashed, so I was forced to do a fresh new installation of windows 11, my DAW and plugins.

I started to install NI as first to see if Kontakt opens up fast again, and it really did.

But I have thousands of plugins, and I was installing them in a week. I checked Kontakt 7 every day during these installations and it started to slow down every day with the increase of installed plugins.

I think I am not the only one, who has much plugins. I also avoided this time to install my old 32 bit plugins with jbridge and I haven’t installed plugins that I haven’t used.

But during the last 20 years - my arsenal has become very big - if some plugins don’t work as expected, like for example PSPaudio is crashing Ableton, I avoid to buy these plugins.

So the same I’ll do with native instruments.

All new Kontakt libraries don’t work in Kontakt 6 and all new Maschine expansions won’t work in Maschine 2.16 but I can’t use latest versions and will not buy from NI again until they have eliminated this behaviour. I still have Komplete 14 CE and everything works on my older versions like Kontakt 6.

I have sold my Komplete Kontrol S49 MK2 because I think this software is slowing down my system and it’s better and faster to use Push3 in Ableton. I really liked kore2 but now a lot of kore2 Ableton projects don’t play a kore sound correctly because it can’t be authorised so FM8 / Absynth5 / Massive and Guitar Rig are running in demo and also Kontakt 4 isn’t installed on my system. I also want to avoid the same ****** with Komplete Kontrol. I think it is better to run the plugin directly and map it with my daw customized. It takes long to scan plugins in Komplete Kontrol and some plugins don’t work in Komolete Kontrol.

To take the advantage of the browser I can do it with Maschine and later on I would open the real plugin with the listened NKS preset to avoid Maschine or Komplete Kontrol as host.