Is it possible to make a pattern less than 1 bar long?

Humantree01
Humantree01 Member Posts: 21 Member
edited October 2024 in Maschine

I would like to make patterns that can create polymeters where one track repeats at a differing length from another.

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  • darkwaves
    darkwaves Member Posts: 475 Guru
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    Hold shift and you can move your locators. You'll need to handle this at the pattern level; so understand everything in the group is going to use the new pattern length. You can then have a pattern in a different group playing something that's a different pattern length.

    Generally people talk about this concept while wanting sound 1 playing a pattern length that's different than sound 2 in the same group. Maschine can't do that. Use multiple groups and you can get all sorts of weird rhythms. That might mean you'll have group A1 as nothing but a single kick drum and group B1 as just a snare.

  • ozon
    ozon Member Posts: 2,069 Expert
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    Hold Shift while changing Pattern length allows you to set the length value with subdivision resolution. AFAIR it’s depending on the meter.

  • Kaiwan_NI
    Kaiwan_NI Administrator Posts: 2,986 admin
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  • Humantree01
    Humantree01 Member Posts: 21 Member

    I tried resampling into an audio, stretching, and adjusting tempo to get certain lengths. Works but its kinda messy.

  • Humantree01
    Humantree01 Member Posts: 21 Member

    Ok that doesn't work, but what does however its inexact is resampling then trucating and putting into a pattern loop. Anyone else find a midi way to do this stand alone?

  • darkwaves
    darkwaves Member Posts: 475 Guru
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    image.png

    Hold shift and you can move your locators. You'll need to handle this at the pattern level; so understand everything in the group is going to use the new pattern length. You can then have a pattern in a different group playing something that's a different pattern length.

    Generally people talk about this concept while wanting sound 1 playing a pattern length that's different than sound 2 in the same group. Maschine can't do that. Use multiple groups and you can get all sorts of weird rhythms. That might mean you'll have group A1 as nothing but a single kick drum and group B1 as just a snare.

  • ozon
    ozon Member Posts: 2,069 Expert
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    Hold Shift while changing Pattern length allows you to set the length value with subdivision resolution. AFAIR it’s depending on the meter.

  • Humantree01
    Humantree01 Member Posts: 21 Member

    Ok im not sure my last way actually works either, it looks like it auto corrects

  • Humantree01
    Humantree01 Member Posts: 21 Member

    Thank you ozone! It seems like I can only choose one other length this way, but it works! Any way to have more freedom?

  • Humantree01
    Humantree01 Member Posts: 21 Member

    Darkwave, that was a fantastic answer for use in tue maschine software. Thank you. Do you know if there is a way to do ot in standalone mode?

  • Humantree01
    Humantree01 Member Posts: 21 Member

    So it looks like it works if I hold shift when selecting pattern length if I select larger than 1 bar. Thanks everyone for your help!

  • ozon
    ozon Member Posts: 2,069 Expert
    edited April 2024
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/147097#Comment_147097

    Don’t know what you mean.

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    This Pattern is shorter than one bar.

    Minimum length is 0:0:1 (one sixteenth note), depending on the Grid -> Step setting.

  • Humantree01
    Humantree01 Member Posts: 21 Member

    I was going to say, I did it! To go shorter, other than one setting you really have to crank that knob a lot. Thanks for all your help! Hello polymeters!

  • ozon
    ozon Member Posts: 2,069 Expert

    BTW, you can change Pattern length during playback, which can be fun and result in interesting polyrhythms - more or less useful depending on the type of music you’re creating. At least, in can be inspiring.

  • Kaiwan_NI
    Kaiwan_NI Administrator Posts: 2,986 admin
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  • Psyearth5
    Psyearth5 Member Posts: 405 Member

    Shift + length Encoder but while you holding Shift you will be able to ajust shorter values, shorter Pattern and you can use same Shift + Encoder for length to find different position of pattern and get different results, catch better combination and Notes position without complicating.

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