Apple AAC to big stage

Kayya
Kayya Member Posts: 198 Advisor
edited October 2024 in Traktor Software & Hardware

Hi guys, I'm wondering if a standard Apple AAC file format is suitable for use in large scenes.

Do you think this lossy format will cause too much distortion in sound systems while transferring sound in big scenes? Will the fx quality we apply from the mixer be low depending on this format?

Everyone knows that it is enough to use it in small scenes, and since it is also used as standard, we can confirm it. Since the DJ performance is exhibited in an environment with high sound pollution, quality above a certain level cannot be transferred. DJ performance is different from an isolated environment in the studio. But I wonder what happens when the scene grows.


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Regardless of the subject;

I've been interested in apple itunes match before. This service keeps matching files and apple music files separate. That's why your apple music library has two separate files from each music. If you keep your entire library in apple music, the files are mixed. That's why it makes sense over time to regret and buy directly. The sale of apple AAC format is 0.045 usd (4.5 cents) in the country I am in today. Global sale is 1.5 usd. If it makes sense, I want to move the entire archive here with apple music. Maybe they can offer it at a price for an upgrade in the future.

Comments

  • lord-carlos
    lord-carlos Member Posts: 3,763 Expert

    AFAIK apple sells 256kb/s AAC, which quality wise is similar to 320kb/s mp3. And most people say that it's good enough for most DJ situations.

    But of course you will always find people with different opinion.

  • Kayya
    Kayya Member Posts: 198 Advisor

    256 AAC is definitely enough for normal performances. This is confirmed by everyone. When examined with technical programs, thanks to Apple's innovative software, it is in the same class as 320 mp3 and in this class, it is cleaner and louder than 320 mp3. There is a serious superiority. This is certain information we have.

    I wonder if there will be a problem transferring this file to large audio systems. thought-provoking because it's going through a big process. I wonder if there will be distortion when applying fx on the mixer because it goes through the process.

    Maybe there is too little difference to be ignored, maybe changing files in large audio systems is a must.

  • lord-carlos
    lord-carlos Member Posts: 3,763 Expert

    What is the difference between normal performances and "transferring this file to large audio systems"?

  • Kayya
    Kayya Member Posts: 198 Advisor

    You are really right to ask this question :) I used the wrong statement.

    Original statement:

    Big concert scenes and big systems of those conditions. (+1000 people, sound engineering, large complex sound systems)

    Small scenes and systems suitable for those conditions (-1000 people, dj setup, speakers)

  • lord-carlos
    lord-carlos Member Posts: 3,763 Expert

    I have no experience in this myself, but what I read from other people is that 320kb/s mp3 / 256 kb/s AAC is fine for this.

  • Kayya
    Kayya Member Posts: 198 Advisor
    edited April 2024

    It's very interesting to hear that even at this level these file formats are enough.

    So what do you call the 4 cent/piece selling price?

  • gmint
    gmint Member Posts: 25 Helper

    AAC is fine for this purpose and I routinely play on a 12kW EAW system with Traktor and my S4. To be honest, one of the areas where I think Traktor excels is sound quality. I've had many people comment on how clean my system sounds compared to other DJs (who are usually using some combo of CDJs and/or Pioneer mixers and/or Serato). File format is certainly one aspect (I source 99.99% of my tracks from legit, high quality sources), as is not generally being an idiot about your signal path (e.g. redlining your mix), but I think that both the Traktor hardware and software play a big roll too.

  • sweeney.b
    sweeney.b Member Posts: 13 Member

    I use mostly AIFF files and I'll explain a bit about iTunes Match which I use mainly for use on iPhone iPad etc etc. on your host computer if you bought wav Aiff or Alac as iTunes cannot read Flac and iTunes will either match those or upload if for any reason your hard drive fails or you choose to not have them on your hard drive and just stream them they will be automatically reduced to AAC 256 so be aware if you have WAV etc etc or rip cds AIFF or lossless

  • Kayya
    Kayya Member Posts: 198 Advisor

    Are you sure that Traktor creates a sound quality difference as software? I thought all software would offer the same quality if the hardware was the same.

    I consider file quality, sound card and speakers as a priority. If you are using 256 AAC format, it has a good feeling that unnecessary noises have been cleared compared to other files. People may have paid attention to this.

    I always think in my inner voice, is this cleaned feeling an artificial cleaning or does it really protect the writing architecture natural cleaning? The big question in me :) he likes to process data in apple software and create processed artificial quality.

  • gmint
    gmint Member Posts: 25 Helper
    edited April 2024

    Yes, software definitely can make a difference. For example, for a long time, Serato users actually had to buy a separate plugin to use the same high quality pitch 'n time stretching algorithm that was standard in Traktor. Things have evolved, to be sure, but with any audio software that has a complex signal chain (e.g. effects, compression) the software is going to have an effect on sound quality.

    Honestly, I think you're overthinking this a little bit. There's nothing wrong with wanting to have good audio quality—not nearly enough DJs even bother thinking about this—but it's not nearly as difficult as it once was. As long as you do the basics: source your music from a legitimate source (e.g. not YouTube rips or SoundCloud), don't redline your mix, use decent hardware, etc. you're going to be in pretty good shape. You really don't need to obsess over file formats, special processing, etc. as most of that stuff is going to very negligible if it does anything at all.

  • Kayya
    Kayya Member Posts: 198 Advisor

    I agree with you that you should not get stuck in too much detail.

    I am interested in DJ in an undeveloped country. Every step we take is money that will meet very serious needs for a person in the country I am in. That's why people like me who are in a situation decide to step by going into the details of everything more. The efforts given and the money given are very valuable to us. This is how everything progresses in undeveloped countries. This pushes us to be more hardworking.

    Thank you very much for your comment.

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