Can someone tell me what's different/new in Music Production Suite 8.5 versus MPS 8?

.Pete

The only thing I see is an upgraded Tonal Balance V3 versus V2 in MPS 8. Anything else new/upgraded?

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Vocalpoint

That is about it.

PoorFellow

I think that price for upgrading from TBC2 to TBC3 is about the same as upgrading from MPS8 to MPS 8.5.

With respect to TBC 3 then Jeremy_NI made this post :

actually there is a lot of new stuff in TBC3 if you compare to TBC2:

New! Target Library | Explore dozens of new genre targets built from analyzing hundreds of pro tracks. Search, filter, and favorite your targets for easy access.
New! Standalone Desktop App | Capture targets and visualize the balance of any audio on your computer, including from Spotify, Apple Music, and YouTube.
New! DAW Target Capture | Instantly turn audio in your DAW into new targets. Save a track’s profile after mastering and easily compare tracks across an album.
New! Extra Meters | Compare your track to even more aspects of your favorite references with 3 new meters – Vocal Balance, Dynamics, and Stereo Width.
New! Target Blender | Design a custom reference profile by combining any two targets in your library, with percentage weighting for the exact blend you need.
New! Leveled View | A brand-new view for the main tonal balance meter. Easily see exactly where and how your audio strays from the target’s tonal balance.
New! Built-In Hybrid EQ | Make instant adjustments directly on the spectrum with a built-in EQ and dynamic nodes. A powerful combo with the new Leveled View.
New! Quick Import from TBC2 | Got some favorite targets saved in Tonal Balance Control 2? Import them directly into your Target Library in just a few clicks.

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Vocalpoint

That is about it.

PoorFellow

I think that price for upgrading from TBC2 to TBC3 is about the same as upgrading from MPS8 to MPS 8.5.

With respect to TBC 3 then Jeremy_NI made this post :

actually there is a lot of new stuff in TBC3 if you compare to TBC2:

New! Target Library | Explore dozens of new genre targets built from analyzing hundreds of pro tracks. Search, filter, and favorite your targets for easy access.
New! Standalone Desktop App | Capture targets and visualize the balance of any audio on your computer, including from Spotify, Apple Music, and YouTube.
New! DAW Target Capture | Instantly turn audio in your DAW into new targets. Save a track’s profile after mastering and easily compare tracks across an album.
New! Extra Meters | Compare your track to even more aspects of your favorite references with 3 new meters – Vocal Balance, Dynamics, and Stereo Width.
New! Target Blender | Design a custom reference profile by combining any two targets in your library, with percentage weighting for the exact blend you need.
New! Leveled View | A brand-new view for the main tonal balance meter. Easily see exactly where and how your audio strays from the target’s tonal balance.
New! Built-In Hybrid EQ | Make instant adjustments directly on the spectrum with a built-in EQ and dynamic nodes. A powerful combo with the new Leveled View.
New! Quick Import from TBC2 | Got some favorite targets saved in Tonal Balance Control 2? Import them directly into your Target Library in just a few clicks.

.Pete

@Vocalpoint @PoorFellow Thank you for the responses. I had seen the TBC 3 thread and wondered if the $99 update for MPS 8 to 8.5 included anything more than TBC 3 (which appears to be a $99 update from TBC 2).

Vocalpoint

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/260059#Comment_260059

There has been a lot of negative vibes in the upgrade pricing for existing customers on TBC3

Yes - there are some updates as listed but whether those items are suddenly worth 100.00 seems to be falling on deaf ears.

.Pete

@Vocalpoint Agree. Just not enough useful (to me) updates to TBC to warrant $99.

nightjar

With Audiolens being discontinued, it seem that iZotope is putting it's efforts in Tonal Balance as an assessment tool.

Kymeia

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/260065#Comment_260065

There should be a cross grade from Audiolens to TBC3 then

Vocalpoint

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/260101#Comment_260101

Better yet - just make the upgrade $59.00 bucks for "loyal" users and let's get on with it.

There is little to see here at $100.00.

nightjar

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/260101#Comment_260101

Audiolens was free, so not quite a situation for this. But I do think the MPS 8 to 8.5 upgrade should be priced more like $49 instead of $99. TB3 is not a primary component of MPS and shouldn't command a price like a big Ozone or RX update.

Kymeia

My understanding was it was only free during an introductory period

https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2022/11/09/izotope-audiolens/

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