Hello All, or Native Instruments Support Team, I am writing regarding my recent purchases of Kontakt (full version) and Session Guitarist – Electric Vintage. Before purchasing, I was aware that Kontakt-based guitar libraries do not natively support MPE. However, I had previously seen a documented workaround demonstrated several years ago, where multi-channel routing and per-channel pitch bend / aftertouch were used to achieve expressive control with MPE controllers. This is the video I am referring to: https://youtu.be/tnfSRr96gdY Based on this, I went ahead and purchased Kontakt and Electric Vintage, assuming that—while not officially supported—there would still be a viable workaround using multi-channel MIDI, pitch bend, aftertouch, or CC mappings. My environment * macOS (Apple Silicon) * Logic Pro * ROLI Seaboard (MPE controller) * Kontakt (latest version) * Session Guitarist – Electric Vintage Current situation I am actively trying to adapt these instruments to my setup, but I am finding that: * Articulation and expression mappings are heavily abstracted in the newer Kontakt instrument UI * Direct access to detailed MIDI/aftertouch/pressure mappings (as seen in older Kontakt versions) appears to be no longer available * While pitch bend can be configured in some libraries, pressure, slide, and lift-off cannot be meaningfully mapped for expressive MPE-style playing At the moment, I am still exploring possible workarounds within Kontakt and Logic. However, if no practical solution exists for using these products with expressive controllers like the Seaboard—even via unsupported or advanced configuration—it would mean that I will realistically never use the products I purchased. Given the total cost involved, this is not a trivial situation. What I am asking * Are there any recommended or known workarounds (even unofficial) for using Kontakt guitar libraries with MPE controllers? * Is there any way to access deeper MIDI / aftertouch / CC mapping for Session Guitarist – Electric Vintage beyond the simplified UI? * If no such workaround exists in my environment, what options are available regarding refunds or alternative solutions? I want to emphasize that I am not trying to misuse the products or bypass intended limitations—I simply want to understand whether my use case is feasible at all with the current Kontakt ecosystem. Thank you for your time. I would appreciate a clear technical answer so I can decide how to proceed. Best regards, Hakan

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Hello All, or Native Instruments Support Team,

I am writing regarding my recent purchases of Kontakt (full version) and Session Guitarist – Electric Vintage.

Before purchasing, I was aware that Kontakt-based guitar libraries do not natively support MPE. However, I had previously seen a documented workaround demonstrated several years ago, where multi-channel routing and per-channel pitch bend / aftertouch were used to achieve expressive control with MPE controllers. This is the video I am referring to:
https://youtu.be/tnfSRr96gdY

Based on this, I went ahead and purchased Kontakt and Electric Vintage, assuming that—while not officially supported—there would still be a viable workaround using multi-channel MIDI, pitch bend, aftertouch, or CC mappings.

My environment

macOS (Apple Silicon)
Logic Pro
ROLI Seaboard (MPE controller)
Kontakt (latest version)
Session Guitarist – Electric Vintage

Current situation

I am actively trying to adapt these instruments to my setup, but I am finding that:

Articulation and expression mappings are heavily abstracted in the newer Kontakt instrument UI
Direct access to detailed MIDI/aftertouch/pressure mappings (as seen in older Kontakt versions) appears to be no longer available
While pitch bend can be configured in some libraries, pressure, slide, and lift-off cannot be meaningfully mapped for expressive MPE-style playing

At the moment, I am still exploring possible workarounds within Kontakt and Logic. However, if no practical solution exists for using these products with expressive controllers like the Seaboard—even via unsupported or advanced configuration—it would mean that I will realistically never use the products I purchased.

Given the total cost involved, this is not a trivial situation.

What I am asking

Are there any recommended or known workarounds (even unofficial) for using Kontakt guitar libraries with MPE controllers?
Is there any way to access deeper MIDI / aftertouch / CC mapping for Session Guitarist – Electric Vintage beyond the simplified UI?
If no such workaround exists in my environment, what options are available regarding refunds or alternative solutions?

I want to emphasize that I am not trying to misuse the products or bypass intended limitations—I simply want to understand whether my use case is feasible at all with the current Kontakt ecosystem.

Thank you for your time. I would appreciate a clear technical answer so I can decide how to proceed.

Best regards,
Hakan

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Uwe303

You use the chatbot and say the answers did not solve the issue, then at some point you can open a ticket.

https://support.native-instruments.com/hc/en-us/articles/360014498698-How-to-contact-NI-Support

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Uwe303

Hello,

unfortunately those libraries with the cogwheels sign cannot be edited, only the older ones with the wrench sign. So you only have PB, Mod wheel (but that makes no sense in those cases cause you would play vibrato with PB) and CCs for the Amp & FX section in the case of the guitar instrument we talking about. I don't know why native instruments decided to do it that way, cause it's taking lots of possibilities away for users, and isn't that the reason to buy kontakt, to be able to edit and use things to my liking. Sorry that I didn't have something better to say.

hakandurut

thanks Uwe303, thats what I thought too, now I am exploring the possibility to run script on Logic to simulate / translate those.. but I have no MIDI knowledge, getting help from AI, no success so far.

I wonder if I can reach out to any human (not a chatbot) from Native Instruments, I have 400 euro of software which I will not use :( I will ask for refund :(

Uwe303

What exact functions you try to use with those guitars, Pitchbend works maybe there is some workaround or method to do it.

hakandurut

roli's press (aftertouch) , slide , lift to various parameters,

here; https://youtu.be/tnfSRr96gdY?t=153

kontakt 5 had everything I want..

if I can get to contact any human from NI, I will ask for older kontakt and libraries..

seven years ago I used to own a roli 25 ( 2 octaves ) which I had to sell , I was able to do all atriculations that satyisfied me..

stephen24

I have no experience of guitars or MPE. But as I understand it, when you play a note, your Roli software allocates a channel# to that note until it is released, and you need to programme an instrument with the required PB and aftertouch settings etc and then duplicate it (on different channels) as many times as the number of notes you're likely to be playing simultaneously, so there is always a vacant channel# available for new notes.

Kontakt 5 or 8 will do all this for you but you do need access to instrument editing to set up and calibrate PB etc in the instruments. Your problem if any lies with the guitar library, not Kontakt. More and more libraries recently released are locked to editing (I believe they say it's to reduce demand for support, or some such nonsense). You can tell it's locked when the spanner in the top left corner of the window (rack view) is replaced by a gear wheel.

Having had a brief shufti at the Electric Vintage walkthrough, I note that there are some instruments in the library that do have the spanner. If they aren't any good for you, you'll just have to get another guitar library which does have it. You can usually tell from the walkthrough, or contact the authors.

hakandurut

guys how can I get in contact with a real person ( not a chatbot ) from NI ?

Uwe303

You use the chatbot and say the answers did not solve the issue, then at some point you can open a ticket.

https://support.native-instruments.com/hc/en-us/articles/360014498698-How-to-contact-NI-Support

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