How do we fix this pattern Sync issue with Empire Breaks

There is a major sync issue when using patterns in Cubase and Abelton.

In Cubase the loop starts fine but then retriggers out of time,

In Ableton It is late from the beginning 29 Ms consistently but doesn't drift.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/2l88fraf8wm8i96hntdzm/Screen-Recording-2025-12-15-at-1.48.11-PM.mov?rlkey=lcpn4p0l1rn5fr2gfjftugv48&dl=0

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Uwe303

Hello,

have you tried to set the "retrigger" on, it´s under the "pattern" tab, also maybe shorten the trigger note by a short amount, maybe 1/32. I´ve tried it on my windows computer with cubase and here it runs fine forever.

djapnrcpro

Sure Have. Here is how bad it goes off in Ableton and Cubase.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/jazwvfcb9h58bac6zwyjs/ABhNfunm4xVk2SnMDkzF998?rlkey=aj3035pz7parvwsagcrcup56r&st=9qebzw0s&dl=0

Uwe303

I cannot see what exactly you are doing here, I guess one instance you play with the build on pattern but just one beat from the four beats and the other instance you use the single instruments? If yes I will try that or what you will describe me, or you can also send me the cubase file I should be able to open that one up

djapnrcpro

Here are some files including a Ableton session.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/jazwvfcb9h58bac6zwyjs/ABhNfunm4xVk2SnMDkzF998?rlkey=aj3035pz7parvwsagcrcup56r&st=99uvsowm&dl=0

Native Instruments became aware of significant Play Series timing and sync issues by at least early 2023, following widespread user reports across various DAWs. Key timeline and milestones of NI's awareness include:

Early 2023 (Initial Major Bug Reports): Detailed community reports in February 2023 highlighted "sync drift" in Kontakt 7 when using Play Series instruments like 40's Very Own Drums and Ignition Keys. Users noted that patterns would lose sync after approximately 32 bars.
Late 2023 (DAW-Specific Findings): In October 2023, reports intensified regarding a "bad timing bug" specifically linked to certain BPM values (multiples of 25) and sample rates. It was documented that timing would speed up or "mess up" starting at bar 33 in these specific conditions.
February 2025 (Official Acknowledgment): NI's Chief Product Officer officially responded to broader customer frustrations, announcing updates for Kontakt 8 to address longstanding performance and usability concerns.
Late 2025 (Ongoing Monitoring): Community updates in November 2025 indicated that while NI has released frequent updates (reaching Kontakt 8.7), users continue to report sloppiness in the sequencer engine at certain sample rates.

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