I can here irate and tired and needing help, and getting nowhere. In just 30 minutes, I've got one of my plug-ins working again and a plan to move forward, so thank all of you, whether you responded or not, it's nice to know you're out here doing this thing. I'm really tired if you can't tell, but I couldn't leave without saying a thank you to all who help angry little men with Kontakt issues ( no puns or double entendres please ).