FFS why is Rosetta2 still a dependency to install NTKdaemon?

kninja
kninja Member Posts: 2 Newcomer
edited March 2 in Native Access

it's 2025. Apple Silicon users should not still be finding themselves coerced into installing rosetta2 when the software they want to run is supposedly now updated to run natively…

I have been unable to run any of my NI software since upgrading to an M3 macbook, despite the fact that all the actual software now runs native on apple silicon for no other reason than NTKdaemon has a hard dependency on installing rosetta2. Why is this STILL the case when even it runs natively now….

I get that there are some legacy software/plugins which will need rosetta2 to install/run, but why force rosetta2 to be installed up front instead of waiting until a user actually tries to install such a plugin? This situation is beyond ridiculous…

No, I don't care if rosetta2 runs smoothly, or whether it takes up resources or not. I simply don't want it installed AT ALL. I didn't fork out thousands of dollars for a new machine with a new CPU architecture to run legacy software through an emulator.

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  • victorp.sg
    victorp.sg Member Posts: 174 Advisor

    On my M2 MacBook according to macOS System Information, NTKDaemon is a Universal application at currently version 1.23.0, and as such, it is running natively.

    Most likely the Installer app and scripts for NTKDaemon is written for Intel, so Rosetta 2 is required during installation only.

  • kninja
    kninja Member Posts: 2 Newcomer
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/212558#Comment_212558

    Well that is my point… NTKdaemon doesn't actually require rosetta2 to run, so why force it to install up front instead of waiting until a user tries to install something that actually needs it?

  • mykejb
    mykejb Moderator Posts: 2,206 mod

    As @victorp.sg said above, NTKDaemon doesn't need Rosetta, but the installer does. So Rosetta has to be installed for the installer to run.

  • BIF
    BIF Member Posts: 1,077 Guru

    I have never heard of Rosetta causing any kind of performance problem on any M series Mac.

    Yes, it's 2025, but it's also only 4 years on from the first M1 Mac becoming available. Sometimes things take time to migrate off of an old technology. Yeah, I know it can feel like it's clutter on your Mac by now, but it's "vendor clutter", not your clutter. Ask me again in 2030; if Rosetta is still around when we're all on M9 silicon, then maybe I'll get upset.

    I'm just happy we're not still messing around with 1998 sound cards that use FM synthesis to approximate sound effects and musical instruments! 😏

  • Skijumptoes
    Skijumptoes Member Posts: 106 Advisor
    edited February 26

    Not sure what the big deal is about installing Rosetta 2 really, but it's a personal choice that should be respected.

    I would suggest that it should be added to the System Requirements page, or Apple Silicon page that links off that. As if it's needed for install then it's a system requirement.

    No-one could complain about it post purchase then.

  • Kesara
    Kesara Member Posts: 1 Newcomer

    When you install rosetta 2 there's no easy way to uninstall it.

    Also when rosetta 2 is installed any new app that requires rosetta will silently work without notifying the user.

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