how do I reset the overall pitch of maschine plus from 440 to 320

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how do I reset the overall pitch of maschine plus from 440 to 320

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  • ozon
    ozon Member Posts: 1,952 Expert
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    The tuning of percussion instruments generally fluctuates as it varies with loudness and (electronic) percussion instruments usually use a falling pitch envelope (which actually is also found when hitting membranes and strings). Therefore you just tune them to your track by ear - at least that’s what I do, even with 440Hz reference tuning.

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  • mykejb
    mykejb Moderator Posts: 2,220 mod

    There's no way I know of to do that with every synth/sample pack etc. You'd probably need to change the tuning on every instrument/sample individually if they support it.

  • ozon
    ozon Member Posts: 1,952 Expert
    edited February 10

    You want to go from A4 to D#4 (49 cent)? That’s more like transposing than changing the tuning.

    If you’re using the Sampler, you can change the transposition and pitch of Sounds of a Group together by using multi select.

    A global tuning for the whole Maschine doesn’t make that much of sense, as every Sound can have its own reference system (for a sample it’s the original pitch of the source material, for a synth plugin it’s the tuning system of that implementation).

  • PopaTube
    PopaTube Member Posts: 32 Member

    Wow all my synths just have a over all pitch adjustment, quick and simple. Can't believe this isn't available, not sure how I'm going to deal with this recording live .

    432 Hz resonates with 8 Hz (the Schumann Resonance), the documented fundamental electromagnetic “beat” of Earth. Music played with the A dropped from 440Hz to 432Hz just feels better.

    Why this is important and the history of standardized tuning is very interesting, here's an interesting article that summarizes it all.

    https://globalnews.ca/news/4194106/440-hz-conspiracy-music/

  • BIF
    BIF Member Posts: 1,078 Guru

    Music played with the A dropped from 440Hz to 432Hz just feels better.

    But then why do you want 320 Hz?

    But yeah, if you're going to bend down every note like this, you might as well use something like VariAudio (Steinberg) on all your tracks before you mix.

    Or just get a synthesizer that lets you tune down on a global basis. Just be aware that you'll probably sound awful if you ever want to put together a band who uses standard tuning.

  • ozon
    ozon Member Posts: 1,952 Expert
    edited February 10

    You wrote 320 (without Hz) twice, not 432Hz. That’s a huge difference. Now we‘re talking about a completely different situation.

    You cannot think about Maschine as „one synth“. As already mentioned, every Sound slot can use whatever Maschine module (Sampler, Audio, Drum Synth, Bass Synth, Poly Synth) or NI Plugin (FM8, Massive, Reaktor, Kontakt, etc) or third party plugin.

    I don’t think there’s any global way to tune all VSTs together in any DAW (Bitwig, Cubase, Live, Logic) either - as it would require some a standardized way to exchange tuning information, which I never heard of.

    You have to set the tuning within each of the different instruments.

    Edit: There is the MIDI Tuning Standard, which allows microtuning of each of the 128 notes, but it is also based on 440Hz as reference. It could probably be used to downtune each note to match a 432Hz reference tone, but MTS is still not widely adopted in instruments.

  • PopaTube
    PopaTube Member Posts: 32 Member

    Typo. I tune all my gear to 432Hz. I compose and my whole studio is tuned down to 432Hz for years, never been an issue to adjust any instrument of computer before. I do a lot of live recordings using multiple instruments and was planning on using the maschine in that process

  • PopaTube
    PopaTube Member Posts: 32 Member

    BIG typo….. yeah I just change a setting on the keyboards and it's done. I see your point. Luckily my main interest is in adding percussion with the maschine +, thanks for sticking with me on this topic.

  • ozon
    ozon Member Posts: 1,952 Expert
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    The tuning of percussion instruments generally fluctuates as it varies with loudness and (electronic) percussion instruments usually use a falling pitch envelope (which actually is also found when hitting membranes and strings). Therefore you just tune them to your track by ear - at least that’s what I do, even with 440Hz reference tuning.

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