Where are vst files

Eff

I am new to midi in general and what a learning curve. Native Instruments is the first plug in giving me this much trouble. It is the new Scene: Saffron plugin

Problem:

Both the VSTPlugins 64 bit and VSTPlugins 32 bit folders are empty after download. The only place I see a library is in the preview folder. I can use the sounds in Kontakt 8 just fine and my daw mpc beats (desktop, pc) can see Kontakt but when I click on that as a plugin it has a list of empty midi channels (midi chan 1- and on etc)

Yes I have native access and Kontakt 8, computer is up to date.

some folks say mpc doesnt play vst3 but I have lots of others working but I should be able to see the files regardless no? So is that a problem with the download (i have reinstalled it several times) or is Native Instruments just making it absurdly difficult to use their content with other daws?

Kymeia

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/41445/where-are-vst-files

Scene Saffron will not show as a separate plugin because it isn't one. It is a Kontakt library so as long as Kontakt is installed it should load in that.

PK The DJ

After installing a new plugin, it's usually necessary to have your DAW software rescan the VSTs (assuming it doesn't do that every time it starts, like Maschine).

[edit] Ah I see Kymeia is saying it's not a VST - so obviously you won't see any dll or vst3 files.

Eff

Follow up, the instruments folder in the scene saffron folder has only has a single kontakt nki file named scene saffron

I downloaded a drums kit to see and it has all the library listed. So Im thinking that the saffron file is bad but i dont know why it keeps doing it with every reinstall

Kymeia

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/41445/where-are-vst-files

Scene Saffron will not show as a separate plugin because it isn't one. It is a Kontakt library so as long as Kontakt is installed it should load in that.

PK The DJ

Not enough info. What drum kit did you download? Are you expecting to see a load of WAV files in the Scene Saffron folder? That's not how instrument plugins work.

Eff

I more want to know why there are no files in the vstplugins folder from native instruments. I know the daw isnt going to see files that are not there

Eff

Kontakt is loaded. It plays the sounds. When I rescan in mpc the folder that the installation path in kontakt tells me its in, mpc seemingly doesn't even see the folder, its not scanning it at all. and when i follow the installation path from kontakt to the vstplugins it says the folder is empty

Eff

When i follow the installation path for the drum kit there is at least files in the content folders. Right now all i want to see is files in the folders. All i see is a single nki file. Is that what I should be seeing?

Eff

sorry first time on the discussion not sure how to respond to peoples advice directly……

Kymeia

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/204484#Comment_204484

Because it's not a plugin - Kontakt is the plugin, Saffron is a library for Kontakt, you load the library in the Kontakt plugin

Eff

I expect to see files of something no? All other plug ins ive downloaded have some file to tell you whats in it. This is just one file that says scene saffron

PK The DJ

See the post from Kymeia - it's not a VST, so you won't see dll or VST3 files.

Eff

Okay. So this is how the saffron folder should look when opened in windows?

so next question then is why does the Kontakt plug in not show it in the daw? Why does it just show a series of empty midi channels

Eff

thanks for patience this has been blowing my mind for two days

Eff

This is what I get when I open the kontakt plugin

PK The DJ

OK I had a play around - and I can't even get MPC (or MPC beats) to see/load Kontakt!

[edit] I was missing a VST folder C:\Program Files\Native Instruments\VSTPlugins 64 bit

It does seem that MPC software still doesn't support VST3.