What about the new firmware update for Maschine + ???

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  • Tom Collins
    Tom Collins Member Posts: 126 Advisor

    I think we can safely assume they will provide the M+ update with fixes and M3 compatibility in January. I would also think support would not turn away helping any M+ users with M2 until that time even though they won't publish more fixes for M2

  • ozon
    ozon Member Posts: 1,911 Expert
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/201211#Comment_201211

    What’s your assumption based on? Are you an M+ beta tester? Do you have the new M+ update with M3 beta running on your M+? If not, January is not achievable.

  • LostInFoundation
    LostInFoundation Member Posts: 4,788 Expert
    edited December 2024

    This optimism shows me a not so deep knowledge of how NI company works…😶

  • Tom Collins
    Tom Collins Member Posts: 126 Advisor
    edited December 2024

    No need to be rude, just because you don't feel you cannot make the same assumptions or you don't share my opinions. I suggest you look at my join date before you explain away my statements with me not suffering the same purgatory as you.

  • djadidai
    djadidai Member Posts: 518 Pro
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/201246#Comment_201246

    you have to forgive us who are longtime users and dreamers who basically lost most of our hope.

  • LostInFoundation
    LostInFoundation Member Posts: 4,788 Expert
    edited December 2024
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/201246#Comment_201246

    Sorry if it sounded rude. It was not my intention. Reading our posts again, I struggle to see the rudeness. But, since it is more important how something is perceived than the real intention, I apologize anyway.

    That said… being in the forum since 2008 doesn’t mean deeply knowing how the company works

  • AdelV
    AdelV Member Posts: 373 Guru
    edited December 2024
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/201293#Comment_201293

    Business as usual ;-) Happy New Year!

    https://youtu.be/MK6TXMsvgQg

  • Cretin Dilettante
    Cretin Dilettante Member Posts: 222 Pro

    This is why I consider trolling a form of activism, btw. This is the exact reason I signed up, so that I could be a jerk and rib this company into doing what needs to be done. A decade without tempo automation was already pathetic, but this takes the cake. No compatibility updates for their FLAGSHIP standalone…they really need more payroll, or like a union or something. I'd rather have to wait for updates because they're picketing, than have to wait because they're tired and understaffed.

  • BigPictureSound
    BigPictureSound Member Posts: 90 Helper
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/201293#Comment_201293

    This is why I think standalone was maybe not such a great idea as it completely forked development. Instead of fast updates for one version, we get slow updates for two.

    I like my maschine+ but if it's slowing down development of the desktop version (which it probably is) it seems misguided.

  • BIF
    BIF Member Posts: 1,057 Guru
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/200815#Comment_200815

    The team is probably all on vacation for the holidays, probably until after January 6th.

  • Cretin Dilettante
    Cretin Dilettante Member Posts: 222 Pro

    I like how my completely reasonable comment got voted down.

    We need to start yelling at/peacefully protesting & advocating for the team to these people:

    yell at em.jpg

    And this guy:

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    Hit them in the wallet. Make social media posts and influencer videos about the downfall of the company and emphasize how behind they are. Tank their stocks and make them sell at a loss if they don't act in good faith. Investment companies kill companies for profit, so lets kill their profits.

  • ozon
    ozon Member Posts: 1,911 Expert
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/201318#Comment_201318

    There are many other products developed at NI, which are way more different and distracting than several variants for the same product.

    On the other hand the same team has to take care of several products, and team leads change about every year. That probably isn’t helpful either.

  • Cretin Dilettante
    Cretin Dilettante Member Posts: 222 Pro
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/201351#Comment_201351

    …which is why they need to spend their money on their employees! Specifically, they need multiple teams to manage different groups of products instead of one team doing everything. Native Instruments aren't Valve…they can't afford to run on "valve time" if everything they produce ends up being mediocre. There should at least be 6 "Teams" at NI…1 for Traktor, 1 for Komplete Kontrol, 1 for Maschine, 1 for Reaktor, 1 for Kontakt, and 1 team to handle plugins, expansions, and libraries. Maybe even a 7th team could be employed that strictly deals with the logistics concerning the interoperability of various products and integration of various technologies.

    Actually, I just had an idea: We should petition for Francisco Partners to sell NI to Gabe Newell. I don't think he cares about music, but he'd probably do a much better job.

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