Plugin Delay - Cableguys's "Snapback"

arson0
arson0 Member Posts: 6 Member

Hello, y'all

I just got the Cableguys's "Snapback" plugin, thinking it'd be fun & useful for my workflow. I run Maschine MK3 in standalone mode (not a VST inside a DAW). Unfortunately, it seems like Snapback creates a very bad plugin delay that makes it basically unusable in Maschine. The sounds with this plugin on it play like 0.5+ seconds behind the rest of the track.

I have loads of other plugins and nearly none give me any issues. All my other Cableguys plugins work fine.

Is there anyway to get around Plugin Delay Compensation issues in standalone mode? Has anyone been able to get Snapback working in Maschine?

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  • gbalzo
    gbalzo Member Posts: 4 Member

    Not other than shifting the notes back until it is in time again. Then you can resample.

    Routing everything else to a track and add a micro delay or adding and instance of slapback in the other sounds will fix it momentarily until you change Snapback settings, it will go off again.

  • Tom Collins
    Tom Collins Member Posts: 94 Helper
    edited November 5

    I use Maschine in a daw and put the snapback there after Maschine instead and resample. It seems it doesn't play very well inside Maschine. Tbh, snapback is great at layering but as soon as you got your layers as you want I would capture and remove the snapback, the delay it introduces is not fun to deal with, even if the daw uses its delay compensation function.

  • D-One
    D-One Moderator Posts: 3,579 mod
    edited November 5

    I would also resample, or actually just do the "snapback feature" manually and focus my use of snapback for layering and sound design. Ideally, I'd rather the Maschine Sampler evolved to have advanced features like Snapback has instead of being stagnated for a decade.

    Just for clarity to whoever reads: Snapback has a feature (Snapback layer) that places a reversed sound before a drumhit hit and the only way to do something before it happens is to delay it… The amount of delay is proportional to the lenght of the reversed sound. If you don't use the "snapback layer" feature than the plugin causes no latency, this feature is only a small part of the plugin.

    With that said, Plugin Delay Compensation could fix it by delaying everything else on the project to have the same delay as the plugin causing the most delay, so… PDC doesn't remove latency, it add's it to the other tracks so your HW/SW basically is delayed everywhere and becomes laggy… On a DAW when at the mixing stage pressing a button and hearing the result much later is not an issue, mixing engenear already tend to use huge buffer sizes anyway but on a HW meant to be responsive and production oriented it could be.

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