Can I Recover Instrument Settings after upgrading from Kontakt 6 to7?

PDMGraham

I upgraded from Kontakt 6 to 7 and uninstalled all of 6 as directed on help page. They didn't mention anything about individual instrument settings on individual tracks, which I presumed would somehow be saved. Is there any way to recover instrument settings? Logic Pro v10.7.7 apparently doesn't auto-update so I had to do everything manually and it looks like I've lost ALL instruments for all the tracks I have Kontakt on. Did I really have to go into every song and note down instrument names and detailed settings before I upgraded?

Vocalpoint

You probably needed to install both 6 and 7 and audit your settings manually.

Should be able to fix this by reinstalling v6

VP

Paul B

The method described below worked for me in Ableton Live, and is much simpler and quicker than manually copying settings. It should work in Logic. It requires both Kontakt 6 and 7 to be installed. It also requires that you have a saved version of your session with Kontakt 6 still on the tracks. Saving as a new numbered and named session version is standard for me when making any major changes, and replacing a plugin counts.

After insuring both K6 and K7 are installed, open your Logic session which has K6 instances you want to transfer. Duplicate each track containing a Kontakt 6 instance and replace Kontakt 6 with 7 on the duplicate. Then

• On the original track, save each Kontakt instrument as a Kontakt snapshot
• On the duplicate track, load the same instrument into Kontakt 7 from the instrument library
• In the snapshots menu, select the saved snapshot from the User section

Once you are confident that K7 contains an accurate copy of the instrument settings, you can delete the K6 track. Then save as a new numbered and named session.

The Kontakt 7 upgrade instructions really should say that you mustn't uninstall Kontakt 6 until you've migrated all instances in this way (and advise that this is how you can do it), unless your DAW will perform an automatic migration (and they should list which DAWs do this and how it works).

EDIT: I originally proposed this method as well, which does not appear to work as I thought

• On the original track, save each Kontakt instrument as a plugin preset
• On the duplicate track, load the preset into Kontakt 7

MLARS

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/164228#Comment_164228

Crazy Kontakt upgrade process in templates has not improved. Kontakt migration needs to be improved considerably. Critical for big orchestral templates.

Vocalpoint

You probably needed to install both 6 and 7 and audit your settings manually.

Should be able to fix this by reinstalling v6

VP

Paul B

The method described below worked for me in Ableton Live, and is much simpler and quicker than manually copying settings. It should work in Logic. It requires both Kontakt 6 and 7 to be installed. It also requires that you have a saved version of your session with Kontakt 6 still on the tracks. Saving as a new numbered and named session version is standard for me when making any major changes, and replacing a plugin counts.

After insuring both K6 and K7 are installed, open your Logic session which has K6 instances you want to transfer. Duplicate each track containing a Kontakt 6 instance and replace Kontakt 6 with 7 on the duplicate. Then

• On the original track, save each Kontakt instrument as a Kontakt snapshot
• On the duplicate track, load the same instrument into Kontakt 7 from the instrument library
• In the snapshots menu, select the saved snapshot from the User section

Once you are confident that K7 contains an accurate copy of the instrument settings, you can delete the K6 track. Then save as a new numbered and named session.

The Kontakt 7 upgrade instructions really should say that you mustn't uninstall Kontakt 6 until you've migrated all instances in this way (and advise that this is how you can do it), unless your DAW will perform an automatic migration (and they should list which DAWs do this and how it works).

EDIT: I originally proposed this method as well, which does not appear to work as I thought

• On the original track, save each Kontakt instrument as a plugin preset
• On the duplicate track, load the preset into Kontakt 7

PDMGraham

Thanks PaulB and Vocalpoint. I have re-installed V6 and found a link to older versions of Noire and a few other libraries so I can choose which version of Kontakt to use on each track now.

I appreciate your assistance 🙏

Paul B

I had to amend my previous post. It looks like the preset method did not work and I was confused. Or rather, it reloaded Kontakt 6 and I did not notice! I really thought it worked. I have edited the original post and am adding this comment to ensure it's not missed.

PDMGraham

ok, thanks for the update Paul B. That was my least favourite method but your advice has really helped. I'm slowly updating all the projects that have Kontakt 6 by creating new tracks with K7 and loading the instruments (after saving the settings as a preset).

MLARS

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/164228#Comment_164228

Crazy Kontakt upgrade process in templates has not improved. Kontakt migration needs to be improved considerably. Critical for big orchestral templates.

Paul B

I wish this was still possible for me. Something recently has changed and all my Live sets with Kontakt 6 will no longer load most NI instruments (only NI working is Pharlight, all third party are working). They tell me content is missing. I relocate the content, this works. Now the instrument is in demo mode. Can't save snapshots in demo mode. This is how I discovered the preset method did not actually work. So unless NI helps me here, I've lost all those tracks that were still in progress. Partially my fault for not rendering to audio or migrating sooner. But I relied on the fact that Kontakt 6 still worked with those libraries, which is not unreasonable. At least the finished music had rendered full mixes, if not individual tracks.

Hope everyone else has better luck.