Delay on Keyboard input

rdgnovice
rdgnovice Member Posts: 11 Newcomer
edited October 22 in Komplete Kontrol

I have a Mac mini M1 running Sonoma, 16GB, 1TB SSD, using a Kontrol S61 MK3 with Kontact7, When I am playing some instrument like The Gentleman, I notice a delay that I did not notice a few days back. Have I possibly moved some setting to cause this? Same is true with the sustain pedal…it works but seems to be delayed esp on release. Thanks in advance.

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  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 3,902 mod
    Answer ✓

    No need to reset it wouldn't change anything, there must be another issue. How do you listen to the music I hope not through bluetooth, then this is the issue, it has a too high latency for making music.

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  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 3,902 mod

    Hello,

    maybe you increased the audio buffer size somehow, it's also possible that you may have a plugin on the master or somewhere in the chain, that introduces a long latency.

  • rdgnovice
    rdgnovice Member Posts: 11 Newcomer

    Thanks. I will run it down. Much appreciated.

  • rdgnovice
    rdgnovice Member Posts: 11 Newcomer

    I have found and adjusted the buffer down in Kontakt 7, not sure where else to look. Maybe I just need to uninstall and start over from the beginning?

  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 3,902 mod

    Do you use Kontakt stand alone or within a DAW? And have you tried with a percussion library?

  • rdgnovice
    rdgnovice Member Posts: 11 Newcomer

    I have tried Kontakt alone and within GarageBand. Not with a percussion library. The delay on the keyboard from strike to tone is not something I've found a way to fix. I think I'm just in over my head. Not sure where I can learn the basics and I don't understand most of the terms used on the website support section. Probably just going go give up and request a refund since I've spent a lot of time with it and not made much music for the effort. I did uninstall everything, plugged in the S61 MK3 to GarageBand with NO NI software at all, and I still get the delay. Not sure if there's a way to reset the keyboard, but it should be just blank.

  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 3,902 mod
    Answer ✓

    No need to reset it wouldn't change anything, there must be another issue. How do you listen to the music I hope not through bluetooth, then this is the issue, it has a too high latency for making music.

  • rdgnovice
    rdgnovice Member Posts: 11 Newcomer

    I do use Bose Wireless headphones. When I tested the key delay issue without the Bluetooth headphones (instead tried running through speakers) the delay vanished! OMG! Thanks. I've tried everything else I could think of. Now, If I may intrude just a bit further on your kindness I have a few questions that will help me proceed. I am lacking a high-level overview of what all these pieces are and how they relate.

    1. I did UN-install everything from NI. Since I am a novice, I need direction on the MINIMUM install of NI software and instruments to start out. (i.e., do I need Komplete Kontrol? Komplete Start? Kontakt 7? What else?).
    2. I have GarageBand but don't know how to use it. Would I be better off installing Ableton Live Lite and learning it, since it is included and seems better integrated and supported with NI?
    3. Are you aware of or could you recommend any instructional courses or books where I could get a basic understanding of music technology? (Plugins, instruments, DAWs, EDMs, etc. I have to look up these terms just to get through the support info). I would hire a tutor if I could find one locally. Open to any ideas you have for someone like me. I play, I can compose, but getting it recorded or stored in my computer is the missing link and the reason I bought the package.

    Thanks in advance for your help. Just solving the delay is huge!

    Randy

  • Uwe303
    Uwe303 Moderator Posts: 3,902 mod
    edited July 5

    Yeah sometimes all the technology stuff is not easy, I would say I have at least some experience but you learn something new every day anyway, maybe because of some problems or tech changing. And starting is really not easy until you reached a certain level I would say but definitely worth it in my opinion. If you want to make EDM I would definitely recommend ableton live, there are tons of tutorials if you search yt for "EDM ableton" and just install all you have from native instruments. I guess you have the stuff that comes with the keyboard, try everything out and later you can uninstall stuff later like orchestral libraries if you really don't need them, but you could make great strings yourself with them for example and use them in EDM too. Lots of possibilities, there are also tutorials about composing. I normally start with a loop and I add stuff, copy it add stuff again and so on, also take stuff away and add something different then chain it together is for me the hard part, make a song structure out of it with transitions and all that. I just my stuff for my pleasure but of course finish something would be nice, I guess that comes with practice and listening to other music and maybe copy it. Also the manuals nowadays are very good normally, and if you don't know something you can google it, that + practice will make the stuff make sense, at least im a guy who can better learn/understand something if I try/do it myself. If you have any questions just ask. If I have some more ideas for your questions I will come back and add some stuff. Maybe this is a good starting point, and buy as soon as you can the next version of ableton live, lite is too restricted:

  • rdgnovice
    rdgnovice Member Posts: 11 Newcomer

    This looks like a good place to start, and I checked out his whole curriculum. Thanks for this! I'm feeling better having a path forward. I'll check out the next version up of Ableton.

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