Standalone Latency on MK3 61

Prokat99

Hey y'all,

I love my new S61 MK3 but I'm having a weird issue when using it standalone and I'm curious is anyone else can replicate.

Basically, the first time I play a note after powering it on AND if I leave it alone for a few minutes and come back and play a note, there is about 10-15ms of latency.

After that first note it's fine. It's not a huge deal really but if I'm playing live and using multiple keyboards (like I like to do) then coming back to the Kontrol and getting that initial latency is going to be irritating.

If anyone can test out I would appreciate. If I'm the only one then I know it's something in my rig

Prokat99

I believe I found the issue but I’m a bit confused.

The delay appears to have been caused by the “auto tune” aka “fine tune” setting on my Slim Phatty. As soon as I changed it to “on”, the issue went away.

however, I know I tested this with the other synths I mentioned and had the same issue… but… now I don’t.

so I guess it’s a blend of the setting and my own sloppy testing.

for now, the issue appears resolved

mykejb

It might be your USB ports are going into a low power state and wake up on the first keypress. No idea how to even check that on a Mac though, sorry.

-- Mike

Prokat99

it’s actually not happening when connected to the computer. This is fully standalone. Running on the usb power only, plugged directly into several synths via 5 pin din MIDI.

I’ve completely reduced my rig and it’s 100% the MK3, standalone only.

Anyone else seeing this issue?

Jeremy_NI

@Prokat99 What's your operating system? With what preset/instrument/library do you have this issue? Please provide an example so we can try to replicate the issue.

Prokat99

@Jeremy_NI

maybe “standalone” is the wrong word. This is happening when using the Default MIDI mode connected to a hardware synthesizer (tested with Moog Minitaur, Moog Slim Phatty, Roland V Synth XT, Korg Radias, etc...), no computer involved.

The only connections are USB-C for power and 5 pin Din MIDI out directly to MIDI in on the synth. The USB C to computer is unplugged (as 5 pin din doesn’t function when computer connection is active due to MIDI host function).

It happens immediately after powered up and happens again if you stop playing for around a minute or 2 and try again

No issues when using the keyboard with my Mac running Ventura and playing Kontakt or Kontrol.

Jeremy_NI

@Prokat99 Ok, thanks for the additional info. I've tried to reproduce the issue without success. I'm wondering if it could be a power issue. What are you using exactly to power the MK3?

Prokat99

I’m using a 30w Macbook air UsbC charger with official mac cable. That should be strong enough right?

Prokat99

I believe I found the issue but I’m a bit confused.

The delay appears to have been caused by the “auto tune” aka “fine tune” setting on my Slim Phatty. As soon as I changed it to “on”, the issue went away.

however, I know I tested this with the other synths I mentioned and had the same issue… but… now I don’t.

so I guess it’s a blend of the setting and my own sloppy testing.

for now, the issue appears resolved

Jeremy_NI

@Prokat99 Thanks for the update. It's pretty weird indeed, glad it's now resolved, as I couldn't see anything that could cause something like this.