[FIXED BY LOGIC 10.8.1] MIDI note doubling issue with Komplete Kontrol 3.0.3 and Logic Pro 10.8
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If you see my most recent post above where "duplicate" notes a semitone apart are being produced on occasions that WILL undoubtedly affect mastering and bounce - unless its a musical effect you happen to like - I don't!!
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And also, I should add, if your track is playing Legato it will be screwed up badly!!
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When you play chord using chord mode, does it record the note you hit as a chord as well at the highest cord? So for example in 1-3-5, the 1 and 5 are played back as a chord after you record into Logic Pro?
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I was able to hear very obvious doubling in some cases. I suppose it will be more or less obvious from patch to patch.
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If you play using Play Assist and put the Harm mod on and Type 1-3-5 Logic records three notes for each keypress on the keyboard. The key you actually press is recorded Doubled. The other notes are recorded single. In this example 1-3-5 the "bottom note" is the key you press and the other two notes are the ones created by Play Assist. In G major for example the note pressed is G which is doubled. Also recorded are B and D and so on.
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It'll also be a problem if you're using any of Logic's own MIDI transform plugins (arpeggiator, chord trigger, scripter, etc.)
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I know, but when I play the chord, 1 is played as a chord as well as 5. instead of just recording the midi information, it plays back as 2 chords at the same time. basically turns it into a 1-3-5-7 chord
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I know they were caught off guard with the update, but going on a week with over $1k in hardware and software being unusable is pretty wild
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It’s not simply a question of being caught “off guard” unfortunately and it may be that it is Logic where some changes need to be, not just KK. This is something pretty fundamental that Apple have changed in how AU plugins communicate with Logic in relation to MIDI.
Have Apple even let developers know exactly what has been changed and how to adapt plugins to make effective use of those changes?
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I just posted a problem report on Apple Logic Pro page. I would encourage as many people as possible to do this so that Apple realizes the existing problems with 10.8 and lets hope that 10.8.1 comes quickly with a fix.
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all the issues ive seen seem to be stemming from native instrument's side. logic will now record all the midi notes, but on NI's side its still forcing the duplicate note into the piano roll and then processing the additional midi notes as notes played.
logic took a step forward, now NI needs to adjust
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I appreciate the various examples being offered by way of diagnostics.
@Majid Beats this is a major change to the AU format, with likely many benefits as we move forward. What this is not though, is an issue specific to Native Instruments. Rather – it is an issue affecting some of our plug-ins, much as it will affect many other MIDI generative plug-ins. The fix may be on a per manufacturer basis, or a wider, continued update to AU. Beyond that, we're looking into it, and can't yet offer a timeline for a fix from either end. Nor would it be right or fair to ascertain blame in either direction.
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I mean it is pretty specific to native instruments since native instruments makes a keyboard with a chord mode.
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I can only state again what I have already: this is a change to the AU format, affecting many plug-ins, not just ours. The fix may, or may not, be on our end. This all remains to be seen, as we look into this change in the format. It is not specific to NI.
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I don't see much point in the blame game.
It's simply the nature of how forward motion sometimes unfolds... some messy stuff happens.
It's not like every interactive aspect can be perfectly coordinated between fast-moving, distinct entities.
No one has died because of this that I'm aware...
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