Connecting 2 KK keyboards

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Benoit JACQUIER
Benoit JACQUIER Member Posts: 3 Member

Hi,

I have 2 KK keyboards (1 S61-MK2 and 1 S49-MK2) and I would like to connect both keyboards to the same laptop (Win10) with Ableton Live host.

When I connect only 1 of them, I can see the 3 associated MIDI devices (Komplete Kontrol-1, Komplete Kontrol EXT-1 and Komplete Kontrol DAW) and the integration in Live works like a charm.

But when I connect the second one, the "DAW" device gets removed (I can't see it anymore neither in Live nor in Windows device manager), and I can't use the host integration anymore.

I can activate MIDI inputs for both keyboards (I see "Komplete Kontrol-1" and "2 - Komplete-Kontrol-1" in Live MIDI configuration list) and I can play sounds with both keyboards, but I lose all the integration features ("MIXER" and "PLUGIN" modes are disabled on the keyboards).

Is there a way to keep the "DAW" device for at least one of the keyboards?

Thanks

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  • Benoit JACQUIER
    Benoit JACQUIER Member Posts: 3 Member
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    Thanks everyone for the hints.

    It seems I've found a workaround: plug both keyboards then unplug and plug back the first one.

    1) plug keyboard 1 => I get:

    • KOMPLETE KONTROL - 1
    • KOMPLETE KONTROL EXT - 1
    • Komplete Kontrol DAW - 1

    2) plug keyboard 2 => I get:

    • KOMPLETE KONTROL EXT - 1
    • KOMPLETE KONTROL - 1
    • 2 - KOMPLETE KONTROL - 1
    • 2 - KOMPLETE KONTROL EXT - 1

    3) unplug keyboard 1 => I get:

    • 2 - KOMPLETE KONTROL - 1
    • 2 - KOMPLETE KONTROL EXT - 1

    4) plug again keyboard 1 => I get:

    • KOMPLETE KONTROL - 1
    • KOMPLETE KONTROL EXT - 1
    • Komplete Kontrol DAW - 1
    • 2 - KOMPLETE KONTROL - 1
    • 2 - KOMPLETE KONTROL EXT - 1

    Then I can use keyboard 1 as complete DAW surface controller, and keyboard 2 as MIDI IN.

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  • 6xes
    6xes Member Posts: 674 Pro
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    this is a known issue... from what i have read on forums elsewhere

    you cannot operate 2 KK devices on a single computer, at least thats how i understood what i had read

    goodluck trying to find a workaround

  • Jeremy_NI
    Jeremy_NI Customer Care Posts: 10,619 mod
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    @Benoit JACQUIER Both keyboards can't control the DAW or the Komplete Kontrol plug-in/standalone applications at the same time. One will always switch to MIDI mode. Unfortunately it is not possible to lock one for the DAW or Komplete Kontrol.

  • Benoit JACQUIER
    Benoit JACQUIER Member Posts: 3 Member
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    Thanks for your answer.

    I understand that I can't control the DAW from both keyboards, but my concern is that when I connect 2 keyboards, I can't control it from any of them.

    When only 1 keyboard is connected, I can select "Komplete Kontrol DAW - 1" to control the DAW:


    But when both keyboards are connected, "Komplete Kontrol DAW - 1" disappears:


    I would like to get:

    • KOMPLETE KONTROL - 1
    • KOMPLETE KONTROL EXT - 1
    • Komplete Kontrol DAW - 1
    • 2 - KOMPLETE KONTROL - 1
    • 2 - KOMPLETE KONTROL EXT - 1


  • JesterMgee
    JesterMgee Member Posts: 2,741 Expert
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    Yeah, it is really not possible unfortunately.

    The whole system was designed with a single keyboard in mind and trust me when I say we have asked for this to change for a long time...

    Basically you need to keep one disconnected i'm afraid.

  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 4,057 mod
    edited September 2023
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    I presume you could connect one with USB to use for Kontrol/DAW and the other with USB unplugged but connected with a midi cable for general midi playing (it would also need to be on external power)

  • Benoit JACQUIER
    Benoit JACQUIER Member Posts: 3 Member
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    Thanks everyone for the hints.

    It seems I've found a workaround: plug both keyboards then unplug and plug back the first one.

    1) plug keyboard 1 => I get:

    • KOMPLETE KONTROL - 1
    • KOMPLETE KONTROL EXT - 1
    • Komplete Kontrol DAW - 1

    2) plug keyboard 2 => I get:

    • KOMPLETE KONTROL EXT - 1
    • KOMPLETE KONTROL - 1
    • 2 - KOMPLETE KONTROL - 1
    • 2 - KOMPLETE KONTROL EXT - 1

    3) unplug keyboard 1 => I get:

    • 2 - KOMPLETE KONTROL - 1
    • 2 - KOMPLETE KONTROL EXT - 1

    4) plug again keyboard 1 => I get:

    • KOMPLETE KONTROL - 1
    • KOMPLETE KONTROL EXT - 1
    • Komplete Kontrol DAW - 1
    • 2 - KOMPLETE KONTROL - 1
    • 2 - KOMPLETE KONTROL EXT - 1

    Then I can use keyboard 1 as complete DAW surface controller, and keyboard 2 as MIDI IN.

  • Jeremy_NI
    Jeremy_NI Customer Care Posts: 10,619 mod
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    @Benoit JACQUIER Thanks for sharing your solution. I wish there was something more practical.

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