Where is all the new gear?

Reed · 2023-05-08T03:35:42+00:00

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I have literally been AVOIDING DJing because I can't risk anything happening to my D2, and NI doesn't have Maschine Mk3 screen support for Traktor. I HATE having my laptop out, so I need y'all to bring back the D2 or allow for screenhacking the Maschine Mk3! Its been too long since I let my Traktor controllerism run free. Could anyone give me any sort of eta for some new gear to get me back out there?

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LostInFoundation

No eta with NI.

And even if they would tell you “soon”, with them it wouldn’t mean anything 😂

LostInFoundation

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/69581#Comment_69581

That’s why he has D2s and ask for new gears: with those you can Dj with Traktor without ever looking at laptop screen. A little bit like with Maschine MK3 and S series MK2 you can produce/play forgetting about being connected to a pc

In the case of Traktor, even the “show” you are putting out to your audience takes advantage from this: you are not anymore the “Dj staring continuously at a Pc screen” but the “musician using its instruments”. I know, I know…it’s only mental…but mental is very powerful…☺️

LostInFoundation

I don’t think op wants any replacement for Traktor.

And…good suggestions…but, even if I’m a big fan of using iPads for music (I use them also for producing, within their limitations), I don’t think that neither DjPlayer nor Djay Pro come even close to Traktor, being it for number/quality of fxs, stability, access to functionalities like remix decks or sequencer, …

iPads for djing is still a “hey look…I can EVEN use an iPad” thing.

Not that it can’t be done…but surely not at the same level.

In any case staring at an iPad screen isn’t too different that staring at a laptop screen

Kubrak

What about of buying spare D2. That is exactly, what I did. And the same with Maschine Jam.

Oxy

Where is all the gear?

We're all wondering the same thing here.

Kubrak

My guess is, new HW will come this year. If not, most probably no new HW anymore. ;-)

LostInFoundation

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/69645#Comment_69645

It’s not about workflow.

I use my iPads daily to make music (probably even more than my PC)

I used Djay Pro many times paired with a Pioneer DDJ WeGo (or also DJPlayer) to put music at parties at my friends homes.

I would NEVER use my iPads to DJ at professional gigs (or better…I used them…but only with DubSiren DX to have some Sound System style horns and “Wheela selecta” things)

But maybe you are braver than me 😉

Kubrak

Class compliant has nothing to do with professional... That is just applecentristic point of view, it could be so....

Kubrak

Class compliant is fine, but it is not the feature pro gear must have.

Pro devices like RME audiointerfaces do have its own drivers, the both for Win and Mac. Beside that, it is possible to use them as class compliant, if desired. Class compliant is sort of non-pro bonus, not the main way to use it.

Kubrak

Any decent DAW works on Win 'tablet' (2in1) for years.... As well as NI HW.

Stevan

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/69959#Comment_69959

Subscription based 4.99 a month and 49 annually. Not a bad price at all for what it does.

Kubrak

Apple is not standard. It is just one of many computer companies. They were at the roots of several standards, as well other companies were at the roots of another standards...

One pays thousands for plugins on Mac and than buy them again for use on iPad. Great. It might be cheaper to buy Win computer and Win tablet instead. That may be paradigm shift.

GoaSkin

Any NI hardware is class compliant. That includes soundcards as well as any controller.

The controllers including Maschine and Komplete Kontrol are USB devices which include a MIDI subdevice and a HID subdevice usable with generic MIDI and HID drivers. To explain it easier: The devices combine a MIDI controller and an HID keyboard. Some devices also include two LCD screens. If so, the devices include another USB subdevice allowing to send bulk RGB16 data to them.

There interfaces to the hardware are neither top secret nor proprietary. But without any complex software handling them, they are stupid "MIDI-HID-Controllers" sending data if you push a button or move a knob. They are designed to interact with the Maschine or Komplete Kontrol software on your computer which handles button and knob events. The software also sends hid strings to the devices if the button illumination and the LCD content is being changed. There is nothing self-sufficient on them.

The class-compliancy makes it possible to create your own software handling the devices which may also run on different platforms like Linux. But there is no generic software which handles HID keyboards containing an individual set of knobs and buttons in a senseful way.

I coded my own software solution for the Komplete Kontrol S49/61/88 a few years ago which also runs on linux. The I/O functions may give you an hint how to interact with Maschine and DJ controllers if anybody has too much time to write a custom software:

https://github.com/GoaSkin/qKontrol

Kubrak

Folks here mean Class Compliant in the meaning it does not need driver to be installed.... No, driver, no problem with different OS versions...

And I think that some of older NI controllers are not Class Compliant.

Kubrak

NI knows how much their SW runs on Surface and like computers. As well they know how much have run on iPad in past. That is sound base for decision, what move to do....

And you are right, MS Surface is not anything like iPad. Traktor, Cubase, Maschine, runs on it for years. And all plugins that run on Win as well. The same with HW for Win. And there are not any artificial OS obstacles like on iPad.

Probably not many folks use Surface for Traktor. When I searched almost year ago, I found nothing. And my question at NI forum was without response....

But yes, it runs Traktor just fine and it is great for playlist preparation.

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