Tunecore rejects music made by NI - Damage Rhythmic Suits (Resolved -Incorrect Reaction by TuneCore)

Not sure if someone already commented this, but I guess when the AI hears that NI loop, it thinks it is part of that song, and when it hears it in yours well it simply thinks its stolen. It doesn't know about native instruments. I've known about a few of these situations, but not with some ****** threatening $300 lol. I wonder if they just send that out to everyone in this situation to make more money, they probs don't sue everyone haha.

Actionable thing you could do tho is contact tunecore's support, its just (support AT tunecore.com)

and just explain to them the situation + show proof like a screen recording of where the sound comes from.

Copyright is OK. To some extent.

But, at least in SW, it protects and not protects.... I have made a piece of SW and sold it to company. The contract was I get some money immediately and then the share on future sales... And what they did? They paid an programmer to analyze my program and program something with almost identical functionality... And so there was no violation of my copyright... :-(

Equivalent in popular music might be. Not so much establised musician comes with his demo to producer. He pays him something and promises to pay more if it sells well. And asks the star to rework it and make it TOP10 hit....

But what I meant was, that in very past pre-copyright times, there was more freedom for creators to base their work on other's work. And they also could make living... Painters even did not sign their works, they did not consider it to be their personal work, they more considered themselves as channels of the God.

That is not all. I helped them to save their company, I fixed their program they were not able to and their customer heavily complained about its malfunction. And they did not want to pay me, I had to sue them. And that is not all. They used black magic to stop me to join competition for another project, they knew I would win, but they wanted to win....

Fortunately, I have joined competition at the very last moment. I brought it minute before closing of the competition and I joined only because being kept asked to join. I won and the customer uses it happily for 20+ years, already. :-)

I was young, ambitious. And plain stupid. Concerning that company that scrued me several times....

Yep it is pretty much a race to the bottom, first to register is first to "own" the samples, even as the actual owner of the samples is either NI or whichever other VST maker.

Unfortunately it appears that the only real solution to this is yet another layer of electronic registries against which the AI will have to check the samples, because lawyers actively prefer complex contracts with potentially conflicting clauses because that is how they get paid.

This will undoubtedly drive the cost of VSTs up. And recording your own samples is not always the solution because if you have a common instrument setup and use common chord progressions, the AI will still flag those as "infringing". The AI is not actually intelligent per se, it is a complex statistical machine that basically flags everything within a certain degree of "similarity".

I’m not a copyright expert but I would imagine that whatever material NI releases as part of their instruments, libraries, expansions, etc. it would fall under some kind of fair use or Creative Commons type of copyright where you are free to use this material as part of any personal or commercial work you want without attribution. Like you don’t have to specify that this music was made using these specific NI sample libraries. In my mind any material being put out there for use as a sample library should be considered fair game even if someone takes that sample and then copyrights a song using that sample. You shouldn’t break any copyright laws for using that sample but you may break a law if you’re sampling the copyrighted song that uses that sample. All of the copyright stuff is about to go belly up once AI really starts kicking off as we’re already seeing with the art community so it’s gonna be real interesting to see what happens in the coming years.