Issues with Maschine+ Encoders and Vegas Mode Exit
Dear Native Instruments team,
My name is Roboomusic — I’m a music producer and content creator, and a proud Maschine+ user. I have the unit perfectly mounted into a custom wooden desk, always kept in pristine condition and treated with the utmost care.
I’m really happy with the Maschine+ overall, but I’ve recently encountered a hardware issue that’s seriously affecting my workflow: the 4th and 8th knobs (encoders) have started acting erratically. The parameters they control begin to fluctuate on their own, increasing or decreasing without any input. It’s extremely annoying and makes it hard to trust the machine during a session.
As you know, this isn’t a cheap piece of gear — I invested in Maschine+ because I believe in the product and in Native Instruments. I even made the most-viewed Spanish-language tutorial on Maschine+, which you can find here:
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I would really like to avoid publicly discussing issues of this magnitude if there's a solution available, whether it's a fix, a firmware update, or a repair process. I’m reaching out with full trust in your support.
One more thing — in my latest video, I left the Maschine+ in Vegas mode as a background visual, and I haven’t been able to exit the mode without abruptly powering the unit off. Is there a proper way to exit Vegas mode without force-shutting it down?
Looking forward to your guidance. I remain excited and confident in your products.
Best regards,
Roboomusic
Answers
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Hello,
here is how to active Vegas mode, so i assume you have to repeat this process for deactivating it:
For repairing issues it is best to contact directly to NI Support, here:
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Hi! As far as I know, or have tried, it doesn't work to deactivate it again. I can only do it by forcing a power off, which I don't think is good for the machine. I've also tried contacting NI using the link you provided, but without any success. When I click on contact, the page refreshes again and that's it. Honestly, I'm feeling very disappointed with NI. Thanks for your efforts anyway.
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I think the general idea of Vegas Mode (and similar things on other products) is that it can be placed in this mode and left out on display in e.g. a shop or an exhibition, where it is locked into the mode and anyone trying to mess with it cannot do so.
Hence it cannot simply be turned off with a button press (or combo of). It's working as intended.
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Nope, it doesn't just refresh but it also opens the chat, to contact NI.
If you can't see it, is because you are using some ad-blocker in your browser. Please deactivate it (not entirely, but for the support page only) and try again.
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If you have problems logging in, there is a dedicated typeform. Please check this article: https://bit.ly/NI_Support_How
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@Roboo It seems you were still unable to get in touch with our support, Can you try with this link? https://support.native-instruments.com/hc/en-us
We would like to help you out and understand what the problem is.
Do you use adblockers?
What browser are you using? Have you tried with another browser?
What is your operating system?
Is this the page you are seeing? And are you seeing the chatbox?
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Hi everyone,
Just wanted to share that I finally managed to reach NI support — surprisingly, I had to use the browser on my Chromecast, since Firefox didn’t seem to work with the support site.Once in, I discovered that the help system is handled by an AI chat, which collected my details and now I’m waiting for a follow-up response. The process felt a bit impersonal, but I’m hopeful they’ll be able to help with the issue on my Maschine+.
Thanks to everyone here for the support and shared experiences — they’ve been really helpful!
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Ah glad that you were finally get in touch, my colleagues will get back to you as soon as possible.
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Hi everyone,
I’d like to share my recent experience with Maschine+ — not to create drama, but because I believe other creators need to know how Native Instruments handles hardware issues that may not be isolated cases.
I’ve used Maschine+ since its release and built much of my creative workflow around it. I’ve promoted it through tutorials, custom sound packs, and live sessions. In fact, my tutorials on Maschine+ and Maschine MK2 are among the most-viewed in Spanish on YouTube — if not the most-viewed. Many people support me on Patreon specifically for help with this device. That’s why this situation is so frustrating and disappointing.
My unit began showing erratic behavior with some of the knobs, making fine-tuning nearly impossible. The encoders jump or skip values unpredictably, making even simple tasks frustrating and imprecise. This is a critical flaw for any serious user — and even more so for someone who uses Maschine+ as the core of a professional setup.
These problems are not due to misuse. And based on what I’ve seen from other users, this seems to be a recurring issue — likely caused by hardware manufacturing faults or inconsistent firmware/hardware interaction in certain batches.
When I contacted NI support, I was offered a paid repair with high shipping costs — and no local service partners (I’m based in Spain). No real options. Just a costly path with no guarantees. As a “gesture,” I was offered some Maschine Expansions — which, respectfully, misses the point completely. I create and sell my own expansions. What I need is a reliable device, not more sound libraries.
This situation has made it impossible for me to continue recommending Maschine+ in good faith. I’ve decided to sell my unit — likely at a loss — and migrate to another platform (probably Akai). It’s a painful decision, because I’ve invested years into Native Instruments’ ecosystem and genuinely believed in it.
But when a professional tool becomes a liability, it’s time to move on.
I’m currently preparing a public video explaining this transition — not out of anger, but out of transparency. My audience deserves to know the reality of using this hardware — and the lack of effective support that may come with it.
I’m posting this here because:
- These are real, reproducible issues affecting real users.
- Maschine+ still has great potential, but reliability is essential.
- Native Instruments needs to hear from serious creators when their systems fail.
If you've had similar issues, or found a workaround or fix, feel free to share. We need to help each other when official support doesn’t.
Best regards,
Roboo (Roberto Díaz Borrego)
Musician, content creator & Maschine+ educator2 -
@D-One , do you have any advice that could help Roboo here ?
@Jeremy_NI , maybe nothing you can do but I call you just in case that you have anything that you want to add .
@Roboo your threads were merged since it is basically the same topic and there is no need to start it all all over.
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Thank you for merging the threads.
That said, I need to stress this isn’t just another support case. This issue is directly impacting my ability to work as a creator. I make a living from this. Maschine+ has been a core part of my workflow since its release. I've created tutorials, educational content, custom sound packs, and built much of my community around this ecosystem.
Right now, with the encoders failing, I can't work with precision. Every minute I spend trying to do something simple turns into frustration — and what's worse, I’m starting to doubt whether I can keep up with my commitments as a content creator, musician, and educator.
@Jeremy_NI — I need to know if there's any real solution here. Are you going to do something about this? Because I’m in a difficult situation, with no local repair options and a tool that's failing me in the middle of important projects.
I’m going to start looking for solutions across every forum I can: Elektronauts, Reddit, Hispasonic, Gearspace… and I’ll also explain the situation through my own channels. Not to attack anyone — but because I need help, I need answers, and most importantly, my community deserves to understand why it’s getting harder for me to keep working with this device.
I’m documenting the entire process — including emails, forum replies, and every step I’m taking — because I’m doing everything I can to save my work. If there’s one thing I am, it’s persistent. I’m not giving up easily. I just need to know that my tools won’t give up on me either.
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From my POV, you've already been offered a solution - send it for repair. As you state "costly", is the problem that you don't want to pay for it, or you want to pay less?
Why do you say "no guarantees"? Did NI tell you that they might not be able to fix it?
How old is the Maschine+? Is it out of warranty?
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Shipping costs for repair when out of warranty tend to be expensive, no idea why to be honest. I once was asked to pay 200$ to have a pair of 400$ speakers sent to Germany to be fixed, in warranty. Crazy…
Hola! I have had this 'erractic knob' issue before on both Maschine Studio and MK3 and was able to fix it without a HW repair.
Explanation of what's going on, but note I am not an electrical engineer, so there's probably some inaccuracies:
NI uses endless potentiometers for Maschine instead of regular digital Encoders, experts say pots are better for many reasons but pots are analog so naturally fluctuate a little bit in values (electrical signal), it's called Hysteresis/jitter and it's mitigated by the software; basically a threshold that needs to be crossed for the knob to actually change a value so the 'noise' is ignored, kind of a filter. So, something is causing the noise in the signal to be higher than expected, thus knobs move on their own or erratically.
Causes and possible fix:1 - EMI interference or bad grounding — Plug Maschine Plus into a different outlet in the house, preferably one on a different circuit. Try it at a friend's house. Unplug everything else on the room you can while testing, including anything you might have connected to the M+ (like USB-to-Computer or MIDI keyboard). If any of this fixes the issue, then you might have a ground-loop going on in your room. A power strip with EMI/RFI filtering could help, but the main point is to establish if it's indeed EMI or Grounding problems and move from there — For me this always fixed the issue, idk which step since I tried all but I suspect it all got better when i started plugging my computer in a different socket than my speakers.
2 - Oxidation or mechanical wear on the pots — if this is the issue (ussually is not) then replacing the knobs should fix it, I've done it myself before and I am terrible with a soldering iron, it's actually really easy. Each pot costs about 5$, just desolder the old ones and put in new ones, if you dont know how to solder then buy the pots and take them to a eletronics repair shop, no one should charge more than 20$ for this 3min job especially if you bring the new pots + pcb and the tech doesent need to disassembly the whole M+. I've done this a few times to repair easy stuff, and the repair-guy often just does it for free. — If you want to go this route at your own risk let me know and I can provide more details.
Using a contact cleaner spray for eletronics could help, but I doubt it very much since the part that matters of the knob is totally enclosed.
Other causes would be much harder fix like dry solder joints, PCB contamination (dust, oils, humidity) issue on the power supply voltage, etc… But a regular electronics repair shop could do it for you most likely for much less $$ than NI repair/shipping.1 -
Hmmm, the interference thing I'd say would be more random or global rather that just being two specific pots. They are reasonably cheap parts to replace though, and they're fitted to their own dedicated PCB within the Maschine, so slightly easier to deal with than complete disassembly.
As D-One says, it would be more economical to have a local repair specialist replace them - quite possibly while you wait. Don't try to do it yourself unless you have experience with soldering/desoldering and swapping PCB mounted parts.
D-One made a disassembly video:
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NI should just sell the dang PCB or any other spare parts, it's literally taking off a cable and two screws. If it takes the user signing something to rid the potential liability of screwing it up so be it.
Having to wait for support, shipping labels, go ship it, wait for it to arrive in Germany, wait for the tech team to have the time to fix it, wait for shipping back, and all this for a 1200$ product on a huge box… That's at least a month wasted. All for a tiny PCB that mass produced probably costs like 10$ but instead we spend like 250$ 😤
People are always up in Apple's case about right to repair but then music companies do this stuff and no one cares.
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