NI DAW?

Epona45
Epona45 Member Posts: 4 Member
edited October 2024 in Tech Talks

Does NI make any DAW programs? I know you have those soundless USB Midi Controllers like Akai and anothers.

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  • Kubrak
    Kubrak Member Posts: 3,147 Expert

    NI has Maschine 2. There is never ending discussion, if it is DAW or not. One can make full song in it.

    Some people use it so, some make just arrangement and export stems to DAW for mixing and mastering, yet anothers use it as a plugin in DAW they use....

  • Epona45
    Epona45 Member Posts: 4 Member

    Ok. What is that Komplete? Is that just plugins or also a DAW program.

  • Kubrak
    Kubrak Member Posts: 3,147 Expert

    Komplete is name for bunch of plugins and content. It is not DAW.

    The only "DAW" that NI makes is Maschine 2. And it is not part of Komplete bundles. You may get Maschine 2 only by buying Maschine row HW. Maybe there are also other paths to get it.

  • Kubrak
    Kubrak Member Posts: 3,147 Expert

    Komplete was complete when it came. Then Ultimate was complete, then Ultimate CE became almost complete. One day Ultimate CE Ultra will be complete. Things change as time passes.

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    Apple also had M1 Max. And later M1 Ultra came.... So, what? Maybe one day there will be M2 Hyper...

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  • JesterMgee
    JesterMgee Member Posts: 3,231 Expert

    In this flooded DIY bedroom producer market, the last thing we need to set floating down the bloat river is yet another DAW, especially from a company that appears to be drowning in just maintaining macOS updates for their current software. You can take your pick from literally hundreds already, some completely free ones are very capable.

    The Native Instruments Eco System is more of a "creative box" of sounds, devices and effects with Maschine as a way to fiddle with your sounds to create ideas or Traktor as a way to perform live if you are a DJ. The issue with offering a DAW is everyone is different and some like linearity (like Pro Tools/Cubase/Logic), some like Non Linear (Like Ableton/Bitwig/FLStudio) and some like to just pretend without really doing anything (Garage Band)

    As mentioned, Komplete is just a "brand tag" which began as kind of saying a "Complete bundle" in terms of the instrument bundles. It is certainly not a statement in the case of Komplete Kontrol that it can "do everything" even tho many read it as this, only to find out some of the simple things you would expect such as being able to load multiple instruments, or being able to even add flexible assignments to pitch/mod wheels etc are just not possible. It's still a great platform but far from a "Komplete" solution for controlling your session

  • Kubrak
    Kubrak Member Posts: 3,147 Expert

    @Mutis

    Komplete is just marketing and I was joking.


    About Apple maybe you mixed topics… idk

    Komplete is just marketing, and Max, Ultra, Hyper, .... is also just marketing. (Max is max, there cannot be anything more. Yet Ultra came. And one day maybe Hyper, or whatever...) (As well as Komplete is complete and there is not more than that. But Ultimate, U CE, ... came later...)

  • PK The DJ
    PK The DJ Member Posts: 2,610 Expert

    Probably best to just forget about the DAW argument and trying to categorize/tag the product.

    Can you use it to create music? Yes. Job done.

  • danwade/
    danwade/ Member Posts: 3 Member

    I always wanted a DAW from NI. The hardware is top notch and even though they are a hardware/plugin company, my wishful thinking yearns for a well thought out DAW that utilizes their plugins, with seamless integration with the NI hardware (I own both Maschine MK3 and Komplete S49). The DAW topic comes up all time, year after year.

    For me, it has always been about, working with one major system (DAW), where I originally started with Maschine and wound up becoming a clip maker vs. arranging songs. Having a DAW that integrated seamlessly with the hardware I use, and in same eco system would have saved me a lot of time. Instead I pounded through many long videos and tutorials on Ableton and Logic. Mind you, this has been years of frustration.

    That said, Maschine has gotten a lot better with exporting stems and midi (especially to Ableton - but just kill the time sigs after export). But still.... with some decent firepower, if NI took on the DAW market and was serious about making a quality product, I think it would be a game changer. Corporate wise, they seem to be making some changes by looking at their job openings (I monitor their career site from time to time to see what roles they are looking for and where we "might" see improvements - as well as this blog). But... I'm not holding my breath.

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