Komplete Kontrol 3.3.1

San Holo
San Holo Member Posts: 4 Newcomer
edited October 22 in Komplete Kontrol

In the newest version of Komplete Kontrol it is not possible to change the parameters of the instruments (e.g. sway). You can load and play them, but not edit them. I am using m32 keyboard beside my maschine mk3.

Is this by purpose?

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  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 5,019 mod
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    Ah I see what's happening, this is not not being able to edit anything, this is the GUI being laggy for Kontakt instruments - if you wait it does change but seems to take quite a while. It has been reported

  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 5,019 mod
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    Of course, it is a bug, it will get fixed, but this works in the meantime - the instrument itself is loading quickly but for some reason the graphics are lagging far behind and need a forced refresh

    Also I find they don't have this problem as much if I load from the Kontrol keyboard browser if you have one

  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 5,019 mod
    edited August 6 Answer ✓

    Not sure if it's just on Mac, or maybe even specific to M series Macs, but if you load any Kontakt instrument that has a GUI in KK 3.2.1, then load another, the previous one appears to stay on the screen. However if you try to move a control you can see it is just an after image, the second Kontakt instrument itself had loaded quickly and can be played and controlled from the keyboard but the image of the previous instrument persists. Eventually it gets replaced by the new instrument GUI but sometimes there is a significant lag. I'm guessing switching desktops flushes the graphics buffer.

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  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 5,019 mod

    I don't know what Sway is but I'm not having problems otherwise apart from with param text entry which seems to have picked up a bug

  • San Holo
    San Holo Member Posts: 4 Newcomer

    SWAY is a Play Series Instrument, like many others. You can chance a lot, like sounds played, sequenced notes, effects, … All this is not possible anymore on any Play Series Instrument.

    To be more precise, if load up on Instrument and change to another the instrument view don not change either. You can not manipulate any settings

  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 5,019 mod
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    Ah I see what's happening, this is not not being able to edit anything, this is the GUI being laggy for Kontakt instruments - if you wait it does change but seems to take quite a while. It has been reported

  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 5,019 mod
    edited August 6

    Can you create virtual desktops on your system? If the GUI freezes like this try going onto another desktop then back agin, this forces the GUI to refresh

  • San Holo
    San Holo Member Posts: 4 Newcomer

    @Kymela yes this is possible on my M1 Mac. And yes this is a work around, that works. Not preferable but…,

  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 5,019 mod
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    Of course, it is a bug, it will get fixed, but this works in the meantime - the instrument itself is loading quickly but for some reason the graphics are lagging far behind and need a forced refresh

    Also I find they don't have this problem as much if I load from the Kontrol keyboard browser if you have one

  • BIF
    BIF Member Posts: 982 Guru
    edited August 6
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/170676#Comment_170676

    I'm a little bit confused. Can anybody give instructions how to reproduce? Thanks!

    Edit…how to reproduce THE PROBLEM, that is. I already know about the other thing, lol! 😉

  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 5,019 mod
    edited August 6 Answer ✓

    Not sure if it's just on Mac, or maybe even specific to M series Macs, but if you load any Kontakt instrument that has a GUI in KK 3.2.1, then load another, the previous one appears to stay on the screen. However if you try to move a control you can see it is just an after image, the second Kontakt instrument itself had loaded quickly and can be played and controlled from the keyboard but the image of the previous instrument persists. Eventually it gets replaced by the new instrument GUI but sometimes there is a significant lag. I'm guessing switching desktops flushes the graphics buffer.

  • HarrySound
    HarrySound Member Posts: 7 Member
    edited August 6

    This release is giving me no end of graphical bugs in stand alone and VST.

    My A49 struggles to do the NKS control….infact it doesn't work without random clicking around.

    Komplete Kontrol is now certified garbage. It should be THE flag ship product and they have controllers based off it's tech but my goodness what a woeful user experience.

    Did anyone test it? seriously?

  • Bryn Owen
    Bryn Owen Member Posts: 23 Member

    I have the same issue with KK … someone asked how to repeat: select an instrument and preset in KK, and display the plugin (so you see the graphical interface for the instrument), then go back to the KK browser and select another instrument and preset and the resulting graphical interface will be permanently stuck on the first one. For me it is not a timing issue - it never changes until I minimize KK, then maximize it again. Agree with others that this is a bug, and should be fixed.

  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 5,019 mod

    select an instrument and preset in KK

    It is only affecting Kontakt instruments, right?

  • Bryn Owen
    Bryn Owen Member Posts: 23 Member

    This stuck GUI issue in KK seems to be most noticeable for Instruments (Kontakt) but I also get crazy graphics when I select Loop or One-shot sounds. I am using an Intel-based Mac, so this is not just M silicon. And also, the latest 3.3.2 KK update does not address it (NI probably has not heard of this issue yet) - at this point it would be nice to see a xx_NI person comment to this thread. Thanks to all!

  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 5,019 mod
    edited August 8
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/171098#Comment_171098

    I'd reported it but it's a new one and probably more complex to fix than the problem that led to the 3.3.2 fix - bugs need to be investigated

    Thanks for adding your system, that helps narrow it down, now we know it is AS and Intel Macs, it would be useful to also know if any Windows users are affected (so far it's not been reported)

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