Feature request: SOLO - how come unsoloing destroys your MUTE choices...??

Mudchild
Mudchild Member Posts: 22 Member
edited October 2024 in Maschine

I have groups muted, I Solo a group to tweak the sound of it, I Unsolo, and Maschine assumes I now want ALL my groups on. Is this not rather strange?? Feels like this would be good as a Shift-Solo action… but I need to Unsolo without losing all my Mutes!

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  • PK The DJ
    PK The DJ Member Posts: 2,758 Expert

    Confirmed. I agree, if you've got some things muted, soloing one (muted or otherwise) should solo it, but unsolo should not reset everything, losing the mutes.

  • tetsuneko
    tetsuneko Member Posts: 884 Expert

    Ideally, one should be able to define how unsoloing works via the Maschine settings. Something like "persistent mute states when soloing" checkbox added to the settings?

  • Rilkecat
    Rilkecat Member Posts: 63 Helper
    edited July 2024

    totally agree, that's key in a system that can have running so many Groups and Sounds. I sometimes feel Native instruments designers think more like software developers and not like musicians who actually play and know musical needs.

  • olafmol
    olafmol Member Posts: 227 Pro

    sounds like a bug

  • ozon
    ozon Member Posts: 2,069 Expert
    edited July 2024

    There are two different concepts for Mute/Solo:

    1. Solo is a special Mute command which mutes all sources except the selected one. Therefore the previous mute state is replaced by a new one, and un-solo will therefore un-mute all sources.
    2. Mute and Solo are independently kept states for the sources, where Solo is overriding Mute. Here it is possible to add sources to the Solo state and even to Solo muted sources. Un-solo switches off the solo state and reverts to using the Mute state. However the last Solo state cannot be recalled.

    Maschine implements the first concept.

  • Mudchild
    Mudchild Member Posts: 22 Member
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/168665#Comment_168665

    Evidently. I for one would be extremely pleased if it implemented both, i.e.:

    • Using the Solo button implements the (essential) second concept, like all other DAWs that I know of
    • Using the Solo button with Shift implements the first - a handy addition, useful for performance.

    What's not to like?

    At the moment I'm finding implementation of only the first concept quite the ballache.

  • ozon
    ozon Member Posts: 2,069 Expert

    Only downside would be that it breaks the workflow and/or muscle memory for all current users. To which some users might react negatively.

  • Mudchild
    Mudchild Member Posts: 22 Member

    Perhaps, but given that it's such a useful, I would say essential, function of any DAW, or even a 'DAW lite' like Maschine, they could easily whack it in.

    A simple preference toggle could determine which of the Solo concepts is implemented when you press Solo, and which goes with Shift-Solo.

    At the moment I'm finding it quite frustrating…

  • PK The DJ
    PK The DJ Member Posts: 2,758 Expert

    Might be time to add this suggestion to the official "Maschine Ideas" thread (if you've not already done so)…

  • Mudchild
    Mudchild Member Posts: 22 Member

    I'd like to. I might be missing something obvious, but where is this Ideas thread?

  • ozon
    ozon Member Posts: 2,069 Expert
    edited August 2024

    https://community.native-instruments.com/categories/share-ideas-for-maschine

    Maybe under Automation & Modulation or Assistive Playing Tools.

  • ozon
    ozon Member Posts: 2,069 Expert

    Actually none of the above mentioned topics match and most of them are currently closed anyway.

    Therefore I submitted a feature suggestion.

    Others who would like to see this feature should do so as well using the official support form.

    @Mudchild you could change the title of this thread and tag it as feature request. Then users supporting this idea can post here. Maybe it will get some traction that way.

  • Mudchild
    Mudchild Member Posts: 22 Member

    You submitted on my behalf then? Thankyou. OK, I'll change the title

  • Mudchild
    Mudchild Member Posts: 22 Member

    unfortunately it's not letting me. I click the 3 dots by the title but there are no options there at all

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