Change Midi CC assignments on Kontrol S61 Mk3?

I returned my s61 MK3 for this exact reason. The VST's are cool and all but limiting the device to software and not providing a way to program custom MIDI was a deal breaker. Loved the keyboard and interface however I bought it for a great keyboard to plug in and program the buttons and knobs to hardware. Kontrol software IMO sucks for what you have to pay for it.

I'd consider picking up a new one if and when they ship the custom functionality.

We NEED MIDI Templates NOW!!! How are we supposed to even send a program change to another MIDI hardware device?

the main NI product chief promised it before the end of June. Still hasn’t happened.

For those of you wanting to set the guide light colors, you can do so in Kontakt. There is a template to allow you to create and save as template. Reaktor also has the ability to set guide light colors.

Program changes can be accomplished by converting MIDI CC or keynote also using Kontakt, Reaktor, and also in some DAWs such as logic.

Sadly, I am in the same boat. To say I have been a big supporter for all these years even as the time I invest in production has dwindled is an understatement and the hours I have invested in feeding back info, trying to help get bugs fixed and holding out hope for improvements is uncountable. V3 was literally like a kick in the guts basically having the exact opposite of what I had been hoping for anyway and creating what I personally see as a mess of an application and a shell of what it once promised.

It has been pretty clear to me that if an issue does not affect NI or partner plugins/software specifically, it is not even considered important (that or there are just so many issues and such understaffed/under skilled programmers they can't cope with it all…). Even after years, there are still some 3rd party plugins that do not show a GUI in KK within DAWs like Ableton!

I honestly loved the NI brand even before I bought into the Komplete ecosystem but all the re-branding, re-inventing, constant apologies for failing to act/listen, changes no one asked for, snail paced development and literally almost everything that has been happening/not happening for the last 6 years has my fuse run out. It really does appear to me that what users say just has no real impact and I have heard the statement about metrics/user data enough times to understand this means the company operates like any corporation where decisions are based on what will create the best return for investors and based on statistics, not user feedback.

There are some great individuals at NI and I don't think anyone is specifically upset about anyone on a personal level, just at what they represent which is an ever growing disconnect from the EXISTING user base since nothing we say or suggest seems to make any real difference. Also appears there is a lack of user activity on the KK forum compared to when the V2 came out. That was a different time but the forums were buzzing and i'd say the overwhelming majority was all positive chatter, was a great time. Not a positive place anymore, just users with issues and complaints now.

I only drop in on some mornings now and don't engage much compared to what I use to, have noticed a lot of older users seem the same and this is a huge loss for NI TBH. I learned a lot from actual skilled users here, that knowledge is disappearing and new users are really missing out, shame they will never really know how useful a place like this once was and how innovative a company like NI was before profits took over the focus.

"I only drop in on some mornings now and don't engage much compared to what I use to, have noticed a lot of older users seem the same and this is a huge loss for NI TBH".

I doubt they look at it as a loss at all, Jester. I think guys like us speaking our minds just makes us a pain in the ass more than anything else. Sad but true I think. They probably wish we'd go quietly into the night.

And I HAVE been finding myself more and more migrating to orchestral libraries from other companies. I can't remember the last time I used one of my NI orchestral librairies. And hardware? Well, there are just so many keyboards out there for far less money which are far more capable from a midi controller standpoint. Pretty much ALL of them I suppose.

I doubt they consider that when they lose a keyboard owner/user like me, they are also losing a user who shelled out 600CAD for the Collector's Edition since Version 8. And for me, the buck does stops here.

Since me talking doesn't do any good, I can only let my money do the talking.

But as the likely say in the Dev. Team boardroom meetings, "Well, you can't please everybody but look at those Q2 metrics!"