Prime Bass Melody crashes Maschine 2

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Roflmauzer
Roflmauzer Member Posts: 4 Newcomer
edited October 2024 in Maschine

I've seen this asked and not answered, but I'm trying my luck.

When I try to load any Prime Bass Melody instrument into Machine 2, Machine 2 crashes.

Faulting application name: Maschine 2.exe, version: 2.18.1.0, time stamp: 0x66461c28
Faulting module name: Kontakt 7.vst3, version: 7.10.5.0, time stamp: 0x6654564f
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x00000000029051bf
Faulting process id: 0x19a0
Faulting application start time: 0x01dac195a1c1df5d
Faulting application path: I:\Application\Maschine 2\Maschine 2.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\Kontakt 7.vst3
Report Id: ae610bdf-87c4-43ae-ae06-29365fa7d58a
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:

I've tried:

  • Loading a non-Melody Prime Bass instrument into Maschine 2 (works).
  • Playing a Melody Prime Bass instrument in Kontakt 7 (works).
  • Loading a Melody Plucked Nylon instrument into Machine 2 (does not crash, does not play audio).
  • Playing a Melody Plucked Nylon instrument in Machine 2 (works).
  • All the advice in Maschine Crashes.
  • All the advice in My NI Software Crashes at Startup (Windows).
  • Adding Microsoft Defender exclusions.
  • Examining Event Viewer (crash text above).
  • Searching for related log files (none found).

Apologies for not hyperlinking Maschine Crashes and My NI Software Crashes at Startup (Windows). "You have to be around for a little while longer before you can post links."

Does loading a Prime Bass Melody instrument into Maschine 2 work for anyone else?

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  • mykejb
    mykejb Moderator Posts: 2,609 mod
    Answer ✓

    It seems ok here on Windows 11 23H2. Loading the Prime Bass "8th Bass (Melody)" from the Maschine browser and drawing in a bunch of notes I don't get crashes. This is on a clean Windows install after loading K14UCE (which took WAY longer than it needed, but that's a whole other story), and without doing anything special like Defender exclusions etc. I've tried loading K7 as a VST as well and that works without crashing.

    Does it crash immediately you load the instrument into Maschine, or when you play a note or adjust settings? Have you tried loading Kontakt as a VST3 first then loading Prime Bass as an instrument? What audio interface do you have?

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  • mykejb
    mykejb Moderator Posts: 2,609 mod
    Answer ✓

    It seems ok here on Windows 11 23H2. Loading the Prime Bass "8th Bass (Melody)" from the Maschine browser and drawing in a bunch of notes I don't get crashes. This is on a clean Windows install after loading K14UCE (which took WAY longer than it needed, but that's a whole other story), and without doing anything special like Defender exclusions etc. I've tried loading K7 as a VST as well and that works without crashing.

    Does it crash immediately you load the instrument into Maschine, or when you play a note or adjust settings? Have you tried loading Kontakt as a VST3 first then loading Prime Bass as an instrument? What audio interface do you have?

  • Roflmauzer
    Roflmauzer Member Posts: 4 Newcomer

    Thanks for taking the time to try it out and provide your feedback.

    I'm using Windows 10 Pro 22H2 (19045.4529) here.

    Based on your feedback, I found an ugly work-around.

    • [broken] When I double click on "8th Bass (Melody)" in the Maschine browser, I get a dialog titled "Progress" that indicates Loading progress for "Prime Bass". When the progress bar reaches 100%, the dialog disappears and the mouse cursor changes to include a spinner for a couple of seconds. Then the Maschine 2 window disappears (i.e. Machine 2 crashes).
    • [workaround] When I add Kontakt 7 as a VST, and then load the 8th Bass (Melody) from within the Kontakt window, it works as expected: I can play the instrument from the Maschine hardware.
  • Roflmauzer
    Roflmauzer Member Posts: 4 Newcomer
    • [bonus] Once I have loaded Kontakt as a VST, I can then double click on "8th Bass (Melody)" in the Maschine browser and it works as expected.
    • But I have to do that every time I start Maschine 2: it's not a one-time fix, like when you have to click through a Kontakt instrument's tutorial popups at least once before it'll open in Maschine. This is something else.
  • Roflmauzer
    Roflmauzer Member Posts: 4 Newcomer

    Mike, I've marked your answer as correct: load Kontakt as a VST.

    Initially, I thought it was a hacky workaround.

    But actually, as soon as you want more than one Kontakt library in a Maschine 2 project, you're going to want a single Kontakt player with multiple racked instruments, so that you can route different Maschine pads to different instruments in the rack.

    So loading Kontakt as a VST is actually the way to go.

    Thanks for turning a huge frustration into a great learning opportunity

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