After the update to Raum v1.3.3, every FL Studio project crashes when loading.

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DeeDivi
DeeDivi Member Posts: 2 Member
edited December 2024 in Guitar Rig & FX

Almost every FL Studio project stopped loading after Native Access installed some updates. Using fldiagnostic.exe I was able to narrow down the error to the plugin "Raum v1.3.3". FL hangs when loading if an older version of Raum was used in the FL project. With \Program Files\Image-Line\FL Studio 21\System\Tools\Diagnostics\fldiagnostic.exe you can load your FL projects filtered and deactivate rooms. I hope NI fixed Raum soon.

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  • Arram
    Arram Member Posts: 1 Newcomer

    I have a similar issue. If I add Choral 1.3.3 to a mixer channel, the program stops responding to any inputs and I have to kill the process entirely. This issue started when I updated all my FX to 1.3.3.

  • Kaiwan_NI
    Kaiwan_NI Administrator Posts: 2,995 admin
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    Hi @DeeDivi @Arram thanks for reporting and sorry about the crash. Our QA engineers are currently investigating the issue.

    Please downgrade them to the previous version in the meantime:

    Raum
    Choral

  • lvlecca
    lvlecca Member Posts: 3 Member

    I'd just like to +1 this as i've had crashing issues with FLStudio projects containing the plugins Choral, Flair, and Phasis since the update to v1.33. I can run FL diagnostics to remove the plugins from the flp file, however I would like this issue resolved so that I can retain my FX settings.

    Thx!

  • AKC
    AKC Member Posts: 2 Newcomer

    Count me in! This is super annoying! I can't use any of NI's effects here! Anything i add to the mixer FL Studio just crashes! PLEASE! HELP!

  • AKC
    AKC Member Posts: 2 Newcomer

    I have RAUM in almost every project i make! Can't finish anything right now. :(

  • Splicer
    Splicer Member Posts: 31 Helper
    edited May 2024

    This is also happening to me with Replika XT. If I load the plugin FL Studio instantly freezes and I can't even end task in the task manager, it says status 'waiting for user' and when I try to end task it says "the operation could not be completed". How can I get previous version of Replika XT?

    I just discovered it's also happening with Bite, Dirt, and Freak. I need previous versions of these also. The above download of Raum worked for me.

    I can't even make a ticket for it because NI don't allow me the right options to choose them.

  • littlealone100
    littlealone100 Member Posts: 11 Member

    I also have this problem.

    It seems that using the vst3 version works fine, but using the vst2 version crashes.

    I get crashes when opening old projects and mixer presets because I was using the vst2 version.

    Hopefully NI can solve this problem.

  • KamilG
    KamilG Member Posts: 1 Newcomer

    Dear NI, you really need to solve this problem. I use Raum, Bite and Dirt a lot in my projects and can't proceed with my next releases…

  • royb0t
    royb0t Member Posts: 4 Member
    edited May 2024

    Also discovered this problem after getting recent updates via Native Access, and discovering FLStudio [I'm on FLStudio v21.2, build 3842, All Plugins Edition] crash or hang when opening projects with the following plugins:

    • Replika
    • Replika XT
    • Raum
    • the 3 Crush Pack plugins: Bite, Dirt, Freak
    • the 3 Mod Pack plugins: Choral, Flair, Phasis

    It seems specifically to be related to the VST2 versions. The VST3 versions seem to work OK.

    My hunch is it has something to do with the graphics rendering as these plugins use OpenGL. I did test updating the drivers for my GeForce NVIDIA graphics card, which did have some updates, but these issues still persisted.

    For us users: you can avoid the issue for new projects by navigating to the Manage Plugins window to star/re-favorite the VST3 versions of these plugins. With my tests, the VST3 plugins seem to open, allow adjusting parameters, save and reload without any hanging/freezing for now.

    PS - wish there was a way in Native Access to 'roll back update' to an earlier version easily, which would help avoid this sort of issue and better allow troubleshooting/testing. I did try "reinstall" via Native Access for one or two of these plugins, but to no avail.

  • Infraxion
    Infraxion Member Posts: 1 Member

    It's been over a month with no update on this… ironic that so many plugins suddenly break FL Studio projects to a completely unusable state, right after NI's cross promotion with FL Studio.

  • JameZ
    JameZ Member Posts: 3 Member

    Is there any update on a patched 1.3.3? I'm hoping the NI team has made progress.

    I can confirm that the installer provided by Kaiwan_NI seems to work. When you run the installer, be sure to confirm the downgrade to 1.3.1. Your project should open as expected.

    J

  • Mark Oxley
    Mark Oxley Member Posts: 376 Pro

    My thoughts on this for what it's worth.

    Read the release notes before updating anything. If the update doesn't fix previous problems you might be experiencing or add functionality that would be of benefit to you then don't risk breaking it. I know it sounds unfair but for whatever reason NI seems to have big problems releasing updates for a lot of their products that then cause various issues at the moment.

    If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

  • Splicer
    Splicer Member Posts: 31 Helper
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/149840#Comment_149840

    Please provide installers for Replika XT, Crush Pack and Mod Pack. Thanks.

  • DJTOista
    DJTOista Member Posts: 5 Newcomer
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/159747#Comment_159747

    I'm also facing this issue and came to the conclusion that the only way to go is to downgrade.

    I tried to search for those installers until I found out that the demo versions they are offering on each product page are actually the full installers and currently all still 1.3.1 so be quick to grab those installers before they update them to 1.3.3.

  • royb0t
    royb0t Member Posts: 4 Member
    edited July 2024

    I also submitted a support ticket detailing my post above, and they replied and sent me more Google Drive links for all those OpenGL related plugins at v1.3.1 as well (Dirt, Bite, etc…). Tested downgrading and installing and my old projects open again, nice!

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