Which external USB Soundcard do I need?

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  • John Wick
    John Wick Member Posts: 30 Member

    I think, an extra external Soundcard, mußt be better, than the on Board Soundcard. I got also delays when i press a key, the sound comes a little delayed out of the speaker...

  • JesterMgee
    JesterMgee Member Posts: 2,964 Expert
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    Yes, that is an issue you will have. On-board audio is not well suited for "real-time" audio production (generating sound on the fly). I'd suggest looking at music stores as a starter (even online) at the popular audio interfaces they have and look for something for your needs. I mean I can suggest what I use and like, I have a Roland OctaCapture but if you really dont have a need for multiple audio in/out then the cost may not be acceptable. There are many other options, just always look if it has dedicated ASIO drivers and steer clear of the Behringer budget cards for the most part.

  • PK The DJ
    PK The DJ Member Posts: 1,902 Expert

    ASIO is the one to go for if you want low latency for music production, but it's not going to be much use if you want to play YouTube at the same time. Generally this is NOT something people want when they're producing.

  • John Wick
    John Wick Member Posts: 30 Member

    I think, an extra external Soundcard, mußt be better, than the on Board Soundcard. I got also delays when i press a key, the sound comes a little delayed out of the speaker...

  • John Wick
    John Wick Member Posts: 30 Member

    I am no producer. I make music just for fun.

  • BIF
    BIF Member Posts: 965 Guru

    Hello OP. How much money can you spend on a new audio interface? You can tell us in your money; we'll convert.

  • John Wick
    John Wick Member Posts: 30 Member

    Good morning from germany. So once again for explanation, i need a card where I can put in the sound what comes out the Sound of my pc and bring it into my home Amplifier. Nothing more. I think about a N. I. Audio 2 or Audio 4.

    Used...

  • Paul B
    Paul B Member Posts: 163 Advisor

    Before buying a used old NI audio interface, make sure they're compatible with your OS. I have an NI Audio 2 DJ I bought in 2013. Does not work with newer versions of macOS. I don't know about Windows. I currently have a Focusrite Clarett 2Pre USB and am generally happy with it, but it's overkill for what you need. The basic Focusrite Scarlett Solo might suit you. I can't advise on how good it is, the Clarett is the only one of theirs I've owned. I had a Roland interface before this that was great, and I only stopped using because it was Firewire and that is no longer a thing, but it was also more than you need. Other brands I see recommended who have relatively cheap simple interfaces: Arturia MiniFuse 1, Universal Audio Volt 1, Presonus Studio 24c. Again, I cannot personally vouch for any of these, only I've heard other people say good things about these brands.

  • John Wick
    John Wick Member Posts: 30 Member

    I have Windows 10… but Thx.

  • BIF
    BIF Member Posts: 965 Guru
    edited April 30

    I have an old Focusrite Liquid 56, but now use a UAD Apollo 8P for the desktop and a UAD Apollo Twin for the laptop. The 8P is a nice unit, but it's a rack-mounted unit, so you'll have to accommodate that in your room. I would not recommend the Apollo Twin, because mine gets HOT HOT HOT, even when the computer is just sitting at idle. I think the Twin (at least the one I have) is a fire hazard and should not be left unattended. Mine is usually offline in the art studio for that reason. And it costed $900 new, which is inexcusable, so I'll come out against it EVERY TIME. I should have returned the twin, but I really wanted to be able to use UAD plugins for a laptop or secondary computer.

    I also have a couple of old Focusrite and Roland units from the old days. You know, 2-in/2-out+USB MIDI.

    All of my audio interfaces can plug into an amplifier with a standard 1/4" cable, but I use powered monitor speakers for better sound and less clutter in an already too-cluttered home.

    My first set of powered monitors is a satellite Fostex set with two satellite tweeters and a subwoofer. I think I bought that shortly after the Vikings started exploring North America.

    I have some 5" M-Audio BX-5s from the time of the Spanish Inquisition. Those are sitting in my art studio waiting for a computer to be hooked up to. And finally, newest ones are Adam Audio 7" speakers from the about the time that Christopher Columbus discovered the New World. The Adams are nice because they have better natural bass than the BX-5s.

    LOL, it feels like this stuff is ancient, and I make jokes about that, but it's not really. It all sounds fine. And I'm a huge proponent of POWERED monitor speakers, because that's one less thing to mess around with.

    If you're looking for good used speakers, you might have a look at Reverb or Ebay. I've had great luck buying equipment from both places.

  • JesterMgee
    JesterMgee Member Posts: 2,964 Expert

    Not exactly correct. A lot of people need access to Youtube or even just another application while using a DAW and this is normally possible if things are setup correctly.

    Most audio interfaces in the pro area offer dual ASIO and WDM drivers simultaneously allowing the standard shared audio between apps such as youtube, windows sounds etc and low latency ASIO applications. WHat is required to have both work together at the same time tho is for the DAW and Windows samplerates/bitdepth to be set the same, would suggest setting these to 48Khz/24bit.

    If you choose to use ASIO4ALL as a duct tape solution for on-board audio then this replaces the shared audio driver with an emulated ASIO driver and so can't do this. This is one reason I suggest to not look at the cheap Behringer interfaces for instance as they do not have a dedicated ASIO driver, instead suggest the use of A4A for low latency usage but will then only connect to a single application at a time.

  • PoorFellow
    PoorFellow Moderator Posts: 4,796 mod

    I have a Roland OctaCapture but if you really dont have a need for multiple audio in/out then the cost may not be acceptable.

    There are many other options, just always look if it has dedicated ASIO drivers

    I think that it is great to learn about what works best from people here who obviously knows a lot about the topic.

    But I also checked the price on the Roland OctaCapture which looks like USD 600 and also checked the price of the UAD Apollo 8P mentioned by BIF which is more than USD 2000. So I am interested in knowing exactly what that "has dedicated ASIO drivers" that you would suggest to other people if they are on a budget ? I mean from what I understand from the discussion here then the Komplete Audio interfaces is not good enough either (?).

  • Mark Oxley
    Mark Oxley Member Posts: 324 Pro

    You can do a lot worse than a Behringer UMC 204 HD. A very capable and inexpensive audio interface that will more than meet your requirements.

  • JesterMgee
    JesterMgee Member Posts: 2,964 Expert

    Well, no idea what I could suggest that I have not used or don't know of the actual input/output/feature/budget requirements. This is why I didn't suggest Roland since if you do not need all those inputs/outputs it's likely overkill, just what I use myself. The Roland Quad Capture is the same thing just less I/O and cheaper but I believe it's now discontinued as i've had mine years and that replaced a Presonus Firewire when that became unsupported when Windows 10 released. Main point, start with what your requirements actually are (and future needs maybe) and a reasonable budget and work from there.

    I would often go into store and haggle price because it's almost always possible to get a better deal if you ask nicely or shop regularly, an art being lost these days though online shopping and a shame as I have scored some very decent deals in person over the years and learned a lot through just talking to the guys that are usually musicians themselves and other customers around the store. Easy to just spend a few hours chatting with people, most love to chat about what they know.

    That seems like a better option than some of the older ones they offered years ago. There were some very cheap models they offered years back and on the Ableton forums people would pop-up occasionally having issues where they could not get both windows/browser audio and DAW audio working and the reason was because those cards needed Asio4All to work with a DAW (they had no drivers of their own) so they were rather terrible. There were some really cheap Akai cards around that were the same too and of course many of the no name brand options are the same. Not knocking Behringer at all, I own DJ amps/speakers, compressors, EQs and headphone amps, all work great and priced well, just always look at the specs and for any audio interface, check the windows driver option. If it lists an ASIO download option, should be good.

  • Mark Oxley
    Mark Oxley Member Posts: 324 Pro
    edited May 1

    I've been using the Behringer UMC 204 HD as my main interface for over a year. The newer ones with the Midas preamps are very good and it always does well in side by side tests with other interfaces with similar features, some costing twice as much. I record vocals, electric and acoustic guitars and also a couple of hardware synths with it. It has solid windows 10/11 ASIO drivers. Even has 2 return inputs I have hooked up to a hardware compressor and a reverb.

    The o/p wants to hear audio from the pc (YouTube) and from his music software simultaneously which this interface does very well.

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