Kontakt 7.8.1 Player

Yes there are quite a few reports of Kontakt 7. I have it crashing ableton 10, 11 and 12. Every time I open it. 5 seconds later it crashes the whole DAW.

I sent in a bug report, NI said it was an error with the  ntdll.dll process, which it is not, because I would have a lot of other programs crashing too, if this was a corrupt  ntdll.dll file.

My logs I sent all pointed to: d3d11.dll.

I even did an In-place upgrade (reinstall of windows 11) so I have a fresh install, all .dll's should be good, and still this ****** is happening!!

Excuse the image size, this was much larger, what the hell is up with pictures on this forum, why cant they go full size!!! I hasve tried both .jpeg and .PNG still this ****** size, you probably can't read it. Im done!!

Yes getting a bit angry. lol

Here is another screen shot, I managed to get a .dmp file from Kontakt standalone.

So its happening in both Daw and standalone:

Added it as a file too, so hopefully you can open it up @NA support

ntdll!LdrpICallHandler+0xf:
00007ffe`62c9ebef cd29            int     29h
0:039> !analyze -v
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*                        Exception Analysis                                   *
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*** WARNING: Check Image - Checksum mismatch - Dump: 0x2204ea, File: 0x2186c2 - C:\ProgramData\Dbg\sym\ntdll.dll\A2C4352C216000\ntdll.dll

KEY_VALUES_STRING: 1

    Key  : Analysis.CPU.mSec
    Value: 390

    Key  : Analysis.Elapsed.mSec
    Value: 665

    Key  : Analysis.IO.Other.Mb
    Value: 0

    Key  : Analysis.IO.Read.Mb
    Value: 0

    Key  : Analysis.IO.Write.Mb
    Value: 0

    Key  : Analysis.Init.CPU.mSec
    Value: 108

    Key  : Analysis.Init.Elapsed.mSec
    Value: 9701

    Key  : Analysis.Memory.CommitPeak.Mb
    Value: 377

    Key  : FailFast.Name
    Value: GUARD_ICALL_CHECK_FAILURE

    Key  : FailFast.Type
    Value: 10

    Key  : Failure.Bucket
    Value: FAIL_FAST_GUARD_ICALL_CHECK_FAILURE_c0000409_d3d11.dll!CLayeredObject_CDevice_::CContainedObject::QueryInterface

    Key  : Failure.Hash
    Value: {de9e79c7-aad4-8783-04c9-479f229e057e}

    Key  : Timeline.Process.Start.DeltaSec
    Value: 91

    Key  : WER.OS.Branch
    Value: ni_release

    Key  : WER.OS.Version
    Value: 10.0.22621.1

    Key  : WER.Process.Version
    Value: 7.8.1.0


FILE_IN_CAB:  Kontakt 7.exe.12632.dmp

NTGLOBALFLAG:  0

APPLICATION_VERIFIER_FLAGS:  0

CONTEXT:  (.ecxr)
rax=00007ffe62c9ebe0 rbx=0000000000000000 rcx=000000000000000a
rdx=0000000000000000 rsi=0000000103bfe5f0 rdi=0000000000000000
rip=00007ffe62c9ebef rsp=0000000103bfd978 rbp=0000000103bfdf10
 r8=0000000103bfe100  r9=0000000103bfdf60 r10=0000000000000000
r11=0000000000100000 r12=0000000000000000 r13=0000000103bfda10
r14=0000000000000000 r15=0000000103bfe100
iopl=0         nv up ei pl zr na po nc
cs=0033  ss=002b  ds=002b  es=002b  fs=0053  gs=002b             efl=00000246
ntdll!LdrpICallHandler+0xf:
00007ffe`62c9ebef cd29            int     29h
Resetting default scope

EXCEPTION_RECORD:  (.exr -1)
ExceptionAddress: 00007ffe62c9ebef (ntdll!LdrpICallHandler+0x000000000000000f)
   ExceptionCode: c0000409 (Security check failure or stack buffer overrun)
  ExceptionFlags: 00000001
NumberParameters: 1
   Parameter[0]: 000000000000000a
Subcode: 0xa FAST_FAIL_GUARD_ICALL_CHECK_FAILURE 

PROCESS_NAME:  Kontakt 7.exe

ERROR_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000409 - The system detected an overrun of a stack-based buffer in this application. This overrun could potentially allow a malicious user to gain control of this application.

EXCEPTION_CODE_STR:  c0000409

EXCEPTION_PARAMETER1:  000000000000000a

FAULTING_THREAD:  000066d8

STACK_TEXT:  
00000001`03bfd978 00007ffe`62cb441f     : 00000001`03bfda10 00007ffe`62c10000 00000000`00000000 00000001`03bfe5f0 : ntdll!LdrpICallHandler+0xf
00000001`03bfd980 00007ffe`62c2e466     : 00000001`03bfe5f0 00007ffe`62c10000 00007ffe`62c9ed4e 00007ffe`62da049c : ntdll!RtlpExecuteHandlerForException+0xf
00000001`03bfd9b0 00007ffe`62cb340e     : 00000000`00000001 00007ffe`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000001`03bfe330 : ntdll!RtlDispatchException+0x286
00000001`03bfe100 00007ffe`62c9ed4e     : 00007ffe`5c3fe961 000001a0`d98ac8a8 00007ffe`5c3c4f8a 000001a0`0000191c : ntdll!KiUserExceptionDispatch+0x2e
00000001`03bfeec8 00007ffe`5c3fe961     : 000001a0`d98ac8a8 00007ffe`5c3c4f8a 000001a0`0000191c 000001a0`00000000 : ntdll!LdrpDispatchUserCallTarget+0xe
00000001`03bfeed0 00007ffe`51edda43     : 000001a0`e50069a0 00007ffe`5c3c4d1d 00000001`03bfef40 00000001`03bfeff0 : d3d11!CLayeredObject<CDevice>::CContainedObject::QueryInterface+0x21
00000001`03bfef00 00000001`80026a7c     : 00000000`00000000 000001a0`d98e8478 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nvapi64!nvapi_QueryInterface+0x1d1ea3
00000001`03bfef70 00000001`80086122     : 00000000`00000001 00000001`8355edbd 00000000`00000000 00007ffe`5c3c4e16 : RTSSHooks64+0x26a7c
00000001`03bfefa0 00000001`80085941     : 00000000`00000000 3f800000`00000000 000001a0`00000000 00007ffe`5c4c5793 : RTSSHooks64!VideoCaptureEx+0x2912
00000001`03bff150 00000001`800707fb     : 000001a0`e64c7238 00000000`00000000 000001a0`d9a06d50 000001a0`e64c72c8 : RTSSHooks64!VideoCaptureEx+0x2131
00000001`03bff180 00007ff6`18e96524     : 000001a0`d1f316b0 00000001`03bff2b0 00000000`00000000 000001a0`3f800000 : RTSSHooks64+0x707fb
00000001`03bff1b0 00007ff6`18e9442f     : 00000000`00000006 00007ff6`190d0ae4 000001a0`d96fe1c0 00000000`00000000 : Kontakt_7!qt_qmlDebugSetStreamVersion+0x3ebe14
00000001`03bff350 00007ff6`18d5bb8c     : 00000000`00000000 000001a0`d92bf430 000001a0`d95066f0 00000000`00000000 : Kontakt_7!qt_qmlDebugSetStreamVersion+0x3e9d1f
00000001`03bff430 00007ff6`18706799     : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000001 00000000`00000001 00000000`00000000 : Kontakt_7!qt_qmlDebugSetStreamVersion+0x2b147c
00000001`03bff480 00007ff6`18705b06     : 000001a0`d95f2100 000001a0`00000001 00000456`00000647 00000000`00000000 : Kontakt_7!qt_qmlDebugMessageAvailable+0x1763b99
00000001`03bff7b0 00007ff6`19212811     : 000001a0`d5986168 000001a0`d954b200 000001a0`d59860f0 000001a0`d954b230 : Kontakt_7!qt_qmlDebugMessageAvailable+0x1762f06
00000001`03bff820 00007ffe`619b257d     : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : Kontakt_7!qt_qmlDebugSetStreamVersion+0x768101
00000001`03bff860 00007ffe`62c6aa58     : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : kernel32!BaseThreadInitThunk+0x1d
00000001`03bff890 00000000`00000000     : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : ntdll!RtlUserThreadStart+0x28


SYMBOL_NAME:  d3d11!CLayeredObject<CDevice>::CContainedObject::QueryInterface+21

MODULE_NAME: d3d11

IMAGE_NAME:  d3d11.dll

STACK_COMMAND:  ~39s ; .cxr ; kb

FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  FAIL_FAST_GUARD_ICALL_CHECK_FAILURE_c0000409_d3d11.dll!CLayeredObject_CDevice_::CContainedObject::QueryInterface

OS_VERSION:  10.0.22621.1

BUILDLAB_STR:  ni_release

OSPLATFORM_TYPE:  x64

OSNAME:  Windows 10

IMAGE_VERSION:  10.0.22621.3139

FAILURE_ID_HASH:  {de9e79c7-aad4-8783-04c9-479f229e057e}

Followup:     MachineOwner

I am wondering if it has anything to do with havinf Rivatuner running. This was never an issue before?

I noticed the RTSS hook?

OK yes!!!

Ableton no more crashes.

RTSS (Riva tuner was the issue)

I have suffered this for weeks now. lol

Thank god!! I wonder if there is a way to still have rivatuner running, maybe a setting with in RTSS, where it does not hook into kontakt...

Thanks! for doing that..