Feedback - Komplete Kontrol 3.0

@Jeremy_NI @Kaiwan_NI :

Could one of you please add the release notes / the official update status for Komplete Kontrol Version 3.0.3 that has just been released for download via Native Access? Thanks.

Thanks for the information. Somehow I was hoping that at least some of the most obvious KK problems - especially related to proper item visibility etc. - have also been solved already.

For example, there are still some quirks preventing users from working nicely with KK in general because of the fact that the "standard KK windowsize" is sooooooooooo small. In fact, the whole application's window takes up only fractals of a 4K monitor, and some options are not even selectable yet as you would expect them to be:

Therefore, could you please make resizable windows available as soon as possible, including a real "fullscreen" option? I don't know many applications anymore nowadays which don't offer any "maximize square" to activate a real fullscreen view. Therefore, could you please introduce that in your next KK release, along with some other stuff that has been promised by Matthew_NI to return to KK finally?

Exacly as shown in the screenshot example above - would it be really too much efforts to keep the KK preset browser pane on the left side while letting users open up the related plugin pane on the right side? That would be the most logical and inspiring thing any user can think of when working with such an application like KK. After all, it was implemented before, and it was wonderful!

I guess you would calm down (and positively surprise) your community by actually listening to them once in a while. It always makes sense to respect customer feedback. Thank you in advance!

One more word related to NI's official "user data tracking" statement:

As you may know, privacy is a very important thing for most of the people, at least here in Europe where I live. The first thing that a responsible person does (or the company he's driving) is to shut down any spying functionalities, e.g. those which the OS includes from scratch (let's say MS Windows etc.) or any application's "phone home" functionality. Every good businessman today takes care about things like that. Therefore, I'm very sure that you missed out the opinions and experiences of exactly those users (like me) who have intentionally "opted out" from such data tracking functionalities. You would never get representative statistics by just looking at those users who have left that option on (and maybe sometimes just because they didn't know about that option at all). And even if all users would had left your data tracking function (which is activated by default) untouched, you could still not find out in detail what people really prefer about your applications and what they really hate.

Let me give you an example, as I have mentioned that "screen resizing and viewing options" before (and because of the fact that NI has also claimed that "not many people would care about it anyway"):

If we'd make a vote today about how many users would prefer to have the KK plugin window next to the browser window, I guess you'd be overwhelmed about the feedback you'd get! Such stuff cannot be "read out" of the usage data you may have analyzed. That feature was simply there in KKV2 and people loved it because it let them work in an acceptable way. Howcome you can even interpret any user data in such a way that you are claiming that people would prefer to have one single window only from now on which needs to be toogled back and forth between two views in order to work? It's quite the opposite; it completely breaks one's workflow, that's simply the truth!

Your collected data won't help you in getting that important information. The only thing that users CAN do is give you feedback via this NI forum and tell you that you might be probably wrong with your latest decisions! Please just think about that for a second and please don't blindly trust any counters your tool presents to you. You are dealing here with real people, also driving their businesses. I guess everyone is expecting to get additional features after installing updates for your applications, but not less!

Thanks again for listening.

Thanks a lot for your quick reply.

Yes, I guess anybody reading this forum has already seen your design proposals before. In fact, they are anyway similar to my request. The only little difference is that in your suggestion the plugin view appears at the bottom of the screen, while I was just talking about bringing back the well-known plugin display on the right side of the screen, like it was already implemented in KKV2 before. As long as both, browser and plugin views are simultaneously available again (and users doesn't need to toggle between those two views), I guess it would already be a great improvement everybody would appreciate. This is also a good starting point to re-implement the "sample drag & drop" feature which has been promised already by NI to return soon.

But just keep in mind that most plugin layouts do not provide that "horizontally long-streched" view as you were depicting it in your proposal above. While you are mainly speaking about the look that your MK3 screen provides you, I'm speaking about the view the application itself (either from NI or from any other VST vendor) provides on the PC screen natively; and in most cases it's more squared or rectangular, so it would better fit there where it already was before. It wouldn't make any sense to "mirror" that long-streched MK3 screen 1:1 on the PC monitor, as the MK3 display is just displaying a very small subset of what's curently going on. Only the actual plugin view on the PC can provide users the full variety of available options.

But hey, I'm open for any improvements, as long as we can finally have both views available at the same time, regardless in which way this may happen.

I downgraded back to KK 2.9

The new update is pretty bad. Essentially, they tick all the boxes......then the browser. It absolutely needs to go back to how it was in 2.9. Put it on the left side please. For example.....lets say I am using serato sample, and I want to drag and drop a loop into serato sample from KK.......I cant do that with the 3.0 update. You can do that with 2.9, but not 3.

The browser is everything, and to put it in a weird folder system that swaps views is absolutely bonkers. Please address this post haste