Layering and timing the orchestration in Kontakt.

F1308

Please, oh, please, is there a way to time 16 voices so that they appear in the composition as I go playing them all along the keyboard simultaneously, but only when planned ?

I can set both, a keyboard range and a velocity envelope for them to trigger (Roland Fantom 8 as MIDI controller), but how could I ask a particular voice to sound after a given time (DELAY, from 0 to 1023 in the Fantom), after releasing the keys (KEYOFF-NORMAL, KEYOFF-DECAY), or just when key is held and a given time has elapsed (HOLD, via time or note lenght) and even a mixture of them (a time after KEYOFF).

I am accustomed to the Zen-Core tones from Roland, capable of huge orchestrations thanks to all those specifications, and very much would like to find a solution for other third party patches, like those in the Komplete series.

Thank you.

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Uwe303

Hello,

with kontakt, this would require scripting. As far as i know there is no kontakt instrument that can do all that right out of the box. I think kontakt is more made with studio use in mind, and those functions from the fantom you described are more live performance orientated.

F1308

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/7604/layering-and-timing-the-orchestration-in-kontakt

Finally !!!!

Freedom has come !!!!

Long life REAPER.

REAPER DAW does offer such astounding capability.

After asking I am told, barely minutes after asking, that...

”MIDI Note filter is a JSFX (a script that runs as a track effect) and will do this.

You should find it in the FX Browser. Insert it onto a track and it will discard notes outside the selected range. Or, you could add it as an input FX, to discard the notes from your keyboard before they reach the track (so they would not be recorded)."

So no more digging into each virtual instrument trying to set a keyboard range for it to sing !!!!

😀😀😀😀

🎹🎹🎹🎹

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Jeremy_NI

Hey @F1308 For what product, device or software is your question?

Uwe303

Hello,

with kontakt, this would require scripting. As far as i know there is no kontakt instrument that can do all that right out of the box. I think kontakt is more made with studio use in mind, and those functions from the fantom you described are more live performance orientated.

F1308

For the Komplete 13 CE bundle.

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/39141#Comment_39141

For the Komplete 13 CE bundle, pending to be upgraded to K14CE, used in a DAW, probably Ableton Live 11 or Cakewalk, via a keyboard MIDI controller, a Roland Fantom 8.

Jeremy_NI

@F1308 Well, K13CE is a bundle that comprises a lot of different products. Which Applications do the KOMPLETE Content Products Belong To?

Uwe303

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/39176#Comment_39176

If you use ableton, then max4live is also an option to script stuff like that, then you would be able to use it with every instrument synth or sampler. You would need to buy live suite to get max4live with it, maybe something you ask for already exists there, you could try to ask in the m4l forum.

F1308

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/39273#Comment_39273

Thanks, Jeremy_NI.

I am sorry...I am still to unbox it.

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F1308

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/39279#Comment_39279

Thank you very much, Uwe303.

Also need to decide about the DAW I will use.

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Uwe303

kontakt has even a function for that - release trigger - maybe you can look a bit online about release triggers. https://youtu.be/-iLfYFpVspE

F1308

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/39386#Comment_39386

Lovely, Uwe303.

Thank you very much.

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Jeremy_NI

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/39337#Comment_39337

No worries, it's a lot of information at once at the beginning, welcome to the forum and welcome to NI :)

F1308

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/39459#Comment_39459

A lot of information, as you said, and tools that are approaching some degree of madness....

Add distance, temperature, relative humidity...

I know it happens in the real world but...

https://soundparticles.com/products/air

https://www.stereophile.com/content/humidity-concert-hall-sound-spectral-tilt

F1308

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/39501#Comment_39501

Ok... bought.

Can't resist hearing those church bells ringing one mile away in a foggy sunrise at 40, 45, 50 degrees....

I might go and try go walking the city as I tell everyone I know the ambient air temperature because that bell there sounds 6 cents higher...

As for humidity, I will keep practicing...

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F1308

After seeing so many plugins I cannot believe none of the ones I founded is dedicated to provide the kind of delays I talked about, not at the end of the voice as echos and the likes do, but at the very key-on-signal so as to delay the start of the sound...

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F1308

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/7604/layering-and-timing-the-orchestration-in-kontakt

Finally !!!!

Freedom has come !!!!

Long life REAPER.

REAPER DAW does offer such astounding capability.

After asking I am told, barely minutes after asking, that...

”MIDI Note filter is a JSFX (a script that runs as a track effect) and will do this.

You should find it in the FX Browser. Insert it onto a track and it will discard notes outside the selected range. Or, you could add it as an input FX, to discard the notes from your keyboard before they reach the track (so they would not be recorded)."

So no more digging into each virtual instrument trying to set a keyboard range for it to sing !!!!

😀😀😀😀

🎹🎹🎹🎹

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