[Feature Request] Session Percussionist: drag drop midi, copy/paste pattern between instruments

bosone · 2025-02-02T08:27:26+00:00

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I was surprised not to see midi drag/drop feature in Session Percussionist: once I have arranged the pattern, it would be very useful to drag/drop the midi pattern in my DAW for further editing and making variation. A lot of similar libraries have this feature!

Another cool possibility would be to save/recall pattern prestets between the different instruments/slot, so that I make a patter for a cajon and can use it as a baseline for a bongo.

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StuartAberdein

I totally agree. It's crazy that it doesn't have this feature. It would be so great to be able to export to MIDI, change small details, past various parts of a rhythm together and play it back. I do this all the time with Addictive Drums and it works so quickly and easily.

@Jeremy_NI is there any chance of this bein added in the future?

DunedinDragon

We're kind of comparing apples to oranges here. Session Percussion isn't really a traditional drum kit plugin, it's more of a percussion loop generator. It can output the MIDI keyswitches that trigger the loops defined in Session Percussion, but it can't generate individual MIDI generated sound of the instruments in Session Percussion because there are no General MIDI definitions for the various percussion instruments being used.

The only MIDI Session Percussion can respond to are the various MIDI keyswitches that when on, play the designed loop associated with that instrument or stop playing it if it's not on. It was designed to allow creators to create complex percussion loops (usually as audio takes or individual keyswitch MIDI recordings) and use them like any other audio or MIDI take within their project.

When I use it I tend to combine it with a more traditional drum kit plugin to fill in the extra instruments not defined by MIDI in a separate track or tracks.

MLARS

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/42055/feature-request-session-percussionist-drag-drop-midi-copy-paste-pattern-between-instruments

Drag and drop midi to DAW sequencer makes sense on percussion sample library

Sidenote: Would be nice to see support for Cubase Drum Maps (Factory Drum Maps) with NI sample libraries when applicable.

bosone

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/222621#Comment_222621

I understand your comment about the fact that SP is not a drum kit and it is not following GM, but since I can acutally play SP sending with MIDI notes from my DAW, why i could not transfer its patterns into my DAW, so that I can edit them? no need to use the SP output with other plugins!

you are making complicate a very simple question!

DunedinDragon

From my experience with SP you can send MIDI key switches to SP which will play the patterns that have been created in SP whether stock patterns or patterns you've modified or created in SP. But those patterns are proprietary to within SP not technically MIDI "notes" mapped to standard GM percussion definitions as there are no GM definitions for those various instruments.

And that's also the reason the patterns wouldn't work with other drum plugins as they all (to one degree or another) use standard GM Drum notes with some differences in mapping on different plugins from different companies.

As an example, regardless of who the vendor is of a drum plugin we pretty much know what MIDI note triggers a snare hit, or a high hat closed, or a kick drum. But what's the standard MIDI note for triggering an Agogo Bell, or Cajon, or a Djembe, or a Shaker?

Yes, you asked a simple question, but the answer is complicated because of how things work in MIDI.

bosone

but why are bothered with standard GM? all it would be needed is SP to export a MIDI pattern that will be played by SP in the same way it would be played by triggering the exact same notes in the DAW…

i don't think users of SP are generally interested in using other sounds with the patterns of SP

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