NAMM 2025: Introducing the NKS Hardware Partner Program
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Massive XI? Massiver? Colossal, Gigantic, Immense? 🤣
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Massive X development makes me very happy. It's a fantastic synth with awesome sound design capabilities. It's UX is a little old-school - so if it were me, a facelift with an 'easy' mode and some more functionality (maybe with an MPE device I hope you're developing) would be spot on.
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I worked through the trial version of Nacht last night, and it is a pretty terrible port if it makes you feel any better. The platform can’t change NI’s love for making things harder than they need to be. I was immediately annoyed at the UI and reminded why I dislike these Play Series instruments so much. The Akai plug-ins are just better tbh or (even better) connecting an external synth to your MPC. NI is going to learn the hard way imo that commoditizing its software is going to end badly. That’s without even getting into NI asking users to pay twice along the way which is crazy.
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The only reason users expect updates to be free is because companies started to release products before they were finished with promises that certain things would be added. NI is a main offender of this. But even aside from that, NI is very obviously reselling the work that was done by people that have long since been laid off. We are getting Analog Dream ONE, which is ancient…not TWO, which is old enough on its own. The other ports are lesser than their desktop counterparts. NI is releasing things imo that they can repackage with minimal effort. That’s why we use the term “cash grab” to describe the practice. Also, NI and Akai are collecting our usage data without compensation. It is a GIANT asset to them to have us in their ecosystem and really what these private equity companies want more than anything else. So, NI can do better without any more of our money. Paying again for these plug-ins is a hard pass for me. Besides, Akai’s plug-ins are better despite common view that NI “has the best sounds.”
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Wow, such a lot of rather negative sentiment here regard this announcement. Not trying to be nasty or inflame anything, just saying. To me, ANYTHING at all that speaks of co-operation rather than hostility toward other manufacturers or products has to surely be of benefit to us the users. Doesn't it (a genuine question)?
I'm really rather new to the entire world of home audio and etc. and one of its attractions is "community". Whichever DAW or vst or piece of hardware one is enamoured of, there's always so much to be found in help from others. Just a personal opinion obviously. So for a company like NI, who let's face it could define the very concept of "walled garden" to want to allow interoperability between different hardware from different manufacturers seems like a fantastic thing to me.
I'd love a world in which "controller X" speaks to "software/DAW Y" and everyone is happy. If only I could actually afford a nice expensive controller that even supports any of this! 🤣
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I’m sorry, but you call it ‘reality’, I would call it ‘lack of good business planning’.
But let’s agree to disagree.
One thing I’m pleased about is that @Chris_NI communicated that M+ will be fixed and updated for version 2 first, and after that M+ will be brought to version 3.
So we as users have a stable and up to date product, and also the choice (yes, we like options!) to update M+ to version 3.
Looking forward to the first beta.
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I own both products.
When I had to make the choice of buying my first stand alone I was stuck between maschine plus or the live 2.
Being a maschine user SINCE Mk 1 I felt I wasn't being loyal to native instruments. But my gut said go with akai.
At first maschine plus had the advantage just for the fact it came with massive, fm7 and kontakt. Akai didn't have the plugin quality to content.
Now look I've personally brought every Plugin akai have made for their standalone. I brought two new mpc maschine plugins. Akai new 3.0 software is class, touch screen, ni Plugin support.
Am glad I brought a mpc live 2 first and if you don't have one then youre really missing out. 😉
I want maschine plus to fight for its place but it seems NI have other plans 🤣😂🤣😜
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I mean, if Ableton had included an arrangement view with the Push 3, there would be no real debate.
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I've wanted a 37-note controller to be a companion to my S61MK3.
Novation's new 37-note Launchkey 37 MK4 is gonna be that solution!
Thanks NI for this new initiative.
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Yes, it answers. Thank you.
This and Chris giving some more answers in another thread is very welcome.
My only suggestion at this point is to not let some questions asked many times hanging for months, to avoid users like me having to insist
👍🏼
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Yep, that'd be nice, although they're mainly channel strip oriented? Could probably add things like the compressors/eq etc though
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I would like to answer you…but they told me to shut up 😉
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Thanks @MaikR for calling out my latest post.
I hear your concerns, and I want to take a moment to address them.
For those who haven’t seen it, I shared some updates about our plans for Maschine+ in another thread, which you can find here:Additionally, I’ll be sharing our 2025 outlook in the next week or so to give you a clearer picture of what’s ahead.
First, let me say how much I appreciate the loyalty and passion of this community. As someone who genuinely loves using Maschine myself (it’s what brought me to work here), I completely understand how the recent NAMM announcements may have raised questions or concerns about where Maschine is headed. To be clear, we remain deeply committed to Maschine.
The collaboration with other brands is an exciting part of what we’re doing, but it doesn’t mean we’re neglecting Maschine. In fact, we’re actively developing new features and improvements for it as we speak.
The real gap here has been communication, and that’s on us. I’ll make it a priority to keep you better informed moving forward, so you can see how Maschine remains a central part of what we’re building.Thank you for sticking with us—I see and value your passion, and we’re working hard to make sure Maschine continues to deliver what you love about it
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Some things are very far from the truth I'm afraid.
First, this one:
So, NI can do better without any more of our money.
It is the opposite. Not just NI but almost all software developing companies do not have the resources that had once. This is because a BIG part of your money is going to taxes, taxes and more taxes, instead of development. It is not their fault, neither yours (so, be careful who you vote for!). The idea that developers are a kind of Elon Musk with unlimited resources, is false and misguided. Developers need your support as much as you need their products. It's a two-way relationship that can not work otherwise.
Then this:
Akai’s plug-ins are better despite common view that NI “has the best sounds.”
You are oversimplify things.
It is mostly like that (according to various professional audio sources) in brief:
Akai
Heavily focused on sampling, sequencing, and beat production.
- Strengths: "Intuitive" workflow, powerful sampling capabilities, and tight integration with their hardware.
- Weaknesses: While excellent for beat production, they may not be as versatile for other genres or production styles. Also, their software is much less "polished" compared to Native Instruments.
Native Instruments
Diverse range of software and hardware, covering various aspects of music production, including synthesis, sampling, effects, and DJing.
- Strengths: High-quality algorithms (some of the best on the market), innovative software design, and extensive sound libraries. Products like Kontakt or Reaktor are established industry standards, used by thousands of audio professionals and world-wide known musicians. Offering powerful synthesis (which is the most important aspect for a creator!), sampling, and effects capabilities. Excellent and visually appealing user interfaces.
- Weaknesses: NI products can sometimes have a steeper learning curve due to their complexity and depth. Their hardware can also be more expensive compared to Akai's offerings. And of course, their support, which needs a lot more work. In 2025 every serious company must provide a 24/7 support!
One last thing to consider:
An important fact that most people have absolutely no idea about, is how much sweat and how many endless months of exhausting work is needed for a product to finish. And how much deep research is occasionally needed for each update, especially it it has some nasty bugs! There is no magic wand that simply obey your wishes.
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Nice. Seeing communication being addressed is a big step in my opinion
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