NI MPC Expansions

Gabriel B
Gabriel B Member Posts: 7 Newcomer

Hi! I'm excited to hear about the support for NI expansions on MPC. As a Maschine user looking for an MPC (for a one-and-done fun college solution), this is incredible. Nothing surpasses NI sound quality and this is amazing to hear about.

I am wondering if I already own expansions that are available as MPC versions, do I need to purchase them again or will they be updated and available for use?

Thank you!

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  • PK The DJ
    PK The DJ Member Posts: 2,175 Expert
    edited January 22

    Hang on a sec, Akai just posted on Instagram…

    Harness the power and elevate your sounds with Akai Professional's MPC seamlessly integrated with Native Instruments' innovative tools—unlock the future of music creation.

    We've seamlessly integrated Native Instruments' Play Series and Expansions to MPC and NKS (Native Kontrol Standard) to MPK devices, bringing popular titles like Kontakt, Massive X, iZotope's Nectar 4, and more. With this collaboration, we aim to amplify the MPC’s creative workflow and deliver professional-grade tools that empower creators at every stage of their journey.

    The "MPC Editions" are here so looks as if it's a separate purchase.

  • ScottyBready
    ScottyBready Member Posts: 30 Member
    edited January 22

    And this absolutely now makes me a little bitter that NI chose to not put touchscreens on our latest gen Komplete keyboards seeing these new plugins running on MPC keyboards. : /

    This also makes me wonder if there’s more to this story we don’t know yet. Is InMusic about to acquire NI?

    Is this why our Komplete keyboards have not seen as much innovation as I’d hoped we see.

    On the flip side, the integration on MPC is extremely exciting and beautifully done…but holy heck as a Komplete user do I feel a little jealous right now.

    Luckily I’m also an MPC user. Ok also looks like AKAI boards also get NKS integration!

    Cool and crazy all at once! lol

  • PK The DJ
    PK The DJ Member Posts: 2,175 Expert

    Yeah I use both here too.

    I don't see any need to pay for "MPC compatible" NI Maschine Expansions either, as they're just WAVs (mostly) and Kit Maker does a good enough job.

    The Play Series, well it does grate a little that I have to pay again, and that these have come to the MPC before coming to the Maschine+

  • Matthew_NI
    Matthew_NI Product Team Posts: 1,621 mod
  • raphaël_
    raphaël_ Member Posts: 29 Helper

    this looks all very weird to me. you would imagine that NI use their intruments to enhance hardware sells and vice versa. now they are selling to the direct competition, which eventually will led to that maschine as a product will see its days sooner than later (also because they stopped caring about it). but its also weird when you think about inmusic and air music technology. they were bought from inmusic before going out of business and are now a big contributer to any new effect or instrument releasing for the mpc platform. although they recently released some nice plug-ins, the NI instruments stuff is certainly more popular and will be hard competition to any plug-in you could buy from air.

    its nice to see those play series instruments available on the mpc platform, also really sad that they have no ambition to make these things available on their own platform for maschine+.

  • koalageddon
    koalageddon Member Posts: 1 Newcomer

    Exciting to see the new NI MPC expansions! They seem like a great addition for producers looking to enhance their sound libraries with fresh, creative options.

  • Matthew_NI
    Matthew_NI Product Team Posts: 1,621 mod

    Why not both?

    It's also worth pointing out that we recently released Maschine Central, a library with over 100 instruments ported from Kontakt to Maschine.

    https://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/expansions/maschine-central/

    The collaboration with Akai is the same idea → porting from Kontakt to MPC. But as you can see in the announcement, it's a lot smaller than the 100+ instruments in Maschine Central.

    We're making our instruments available in as many places as possible, including Maschine.

  • gigino
    gigino Member Posts: 18 Member
    edited January 23

    Hello everyone
    another choice that excludes NI customers and in particular those of Maschine software and Maschine plus.
    It is good to expand the audience of possible users but it is really serious not to support loyal customers who have spent resources on NI who have been waiting for years for a real update of software Maschine and a real update and enhancement of Maschine plus.
    Very very serious; at this point it seems more convenient to switch directly to Akai rather than do all these twists and turns just for economic interests... Great disappointment after the lack of actual discounts to owners of NI packages last November.
    Sorry to say it but "bad very bad!!"

  • Nitesail
    Nitesail Member Posts: 5 Member

    Absolutely. While others may praise this move for me I'm simply pissed. I've been sticking with Maschine Plus in hopes for a major firmware update they keep saying is coming and instead we find out NI has been being unfaithful to us with Akai. Feels like a total stab in the back. Why not at least wait until you give much anticipated support for your current customers before making a move like this. If anything this may make me finally just jump ship to the world of MPC.

  • PK The DJ
    PK The DJ Member Posts: 2,175 Expert
    edited January 23

    "over 100 instruments ported from Kontakt to Maschine"

    It would be more accurate (and less misleading) to describe these as sounds, not instruments.

    They're not listed as instruments on Maschine, they're listed under sounds, and each one is basically a recording of a sound from a Play Series instrument (not the whole instrument).

    So, they are NOT the Play Series instruments (or lite versions of those, which the MPC releases are).

    It seems each Play Series instrument has 150 presets, so assuming the MPC versions have the same count, that gives MPC users 750 presets, along with all the tweaks they can do via the interface, while we just get 144 non tweakable sounds. There's just no comparison.

  • LostInFoundation
    LostInFoundation Member Posts: 4,708 Expert
    edited January 24

    Ooooh… thank you… finally someone said it…

    But…I’ll edit my post after your edit, for the love of correctness (even if it doesn’t change that what you said is valid): the MPC versions don’t have the same amount of presets. Have a look at Loopop video that compares quite honestly the different versions

  • trusampler
    trusampler Member Posts: 300 Advisor

    Here's an alternative, many users like myself have been using for years for converting Maschine expansions into MPC >

    https://www.kit-maker.com/

    We don't get the pretty graphics, but if your intention are the sounds and samples and you're actually making music this app works great in the MPC.

  • PK The DJ
    PK The DJ Member Posts: 2,175 Expert
    edited January 24

    Granted the expansions are easy peasy to convert as they're just a bunch of WAVs and a mapping. Therefore no real need to buy again for MPC if you know what you're doing.

    The instruments not so much.

    @LostInFoundation I was just basing the numbers on what I could see. 150 seemed to be the default for the Kontakt versions, and I saw that the MPC version of NACHT also had 150…

    Regardless of exact number, a lot more than 144. 😁

  • LostInFoundation
    LostInFoundation Member Posts: 4,708 Expert

    Yes, a LOT more

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