Legacy Products: Absynth, Vokator, Spectral Delay

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  • iNate
    iNate Member Posts: 250 Advisor
    edited November 24
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/192838#Comment_192838

    I'm not reading all of that because I think it's not worth time dragging this out further, I just want to respond to two snippets that stood out to me when I turbo-skimmed it (and a subsequent comment)…

    • Absynth can be replaced by multiple other synths and synth workstations on the market.

    There is no point clinging to it. The only value it brings is being able to open old projects - since people should have moved on form it by now.

    The same way they should be on the latest version of NA (the irony of that response is palpable).

    • This "tools vs. toys" argument is something you're inventing in your head.

    This is like buying a car. You might buy one because you like shiny new designs, or you may buy one because it has amazing safety features.

    Using Absynth 5 in 2024 is akin to driving a beat up box chevy with no safety features simply because you have some warped ideology that the only reason someone would buy a new car is because they're riding the wave of FADs.

    It sounds - and is - stupid.

    I'm a business. I operate like a business. Keeping out of support abandonware on my machine and polluting my projects with them is masochistic. It makes zero business sense.

    The only people who think like you, are [ironically] the people who treat these applications like "toys."

    • No one gives two poops what the original author said. That's cope. He isn't maintaining and updating it, so the product is what it is and will remain so. That will not change, so I'm not sure why people keep bringing this up.
    • There is no point in debating this further because nothing will change. The status quo will not change. Your rationale for wanting to run ancient software and put those plug-ins in your sessions by any means necessary will not change. My view that it's masochistic and only creates more forum clutter when you people run here asking for others to help you fix the issues you have caused for yourself will not change.

    We're beating a dead horse.

    Bye.

  • Mark Wesse
    Mark Wesse Member Posts: 63 Member
    edited November 24

    sure. You are right…you are running a business…i understand and thats probs why we see it diff

    like I said, i now have a solution and thanked everyone

    As well…I have asked for links to spotify etc Would love to hear what you do?

    BTW"

    How often do you build patches from scratch or deeply edit? ie unique sounds from the same synth engine?

    how many times do you change pickups on a 57 strat?

  • Mark Wesse
    Mark Wesse Member Posts: 63 Member
    edited November 24
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/192876#Comment_192876

    no, exclusively Cubase or Live according to need but it does look great and would have totally appealed to me 30 years ago for sure

  • BIF
    BIF Member Posts: 991 Guru

    There is nothing that does what Absynth does. There is not a new version of something else that does that. And I believe the code is up-datable and up-gradable to current standards. That's why I've made the case for bringing it up to date.

    And no, the original author can't work on it. He might be prevented by legal agreements. He might be unable to be compensated for his time unless there is a new legal agreement. Whatever the case, saying that he's not working on it is the reason it is "ancient" is disingenuous.

    Some things CAN be updated. And maybe they SHOULD, even if you disagree with that. Fine, disagree. You do you, but calling everything you don't use "ancient" is unfair and wrong.

  • Mark Wesse
    Mark Wesse Member Posts: 63 Member
    edited December 8

    Actually @BIF, a great perspective ...from obviously someone who actually used the engine and edited it...vs preset surfing. It is unique and that's the point…not only unique but brilliant topograhphy and implementation...a masterpieces to anyone who looks under the hood ;-)

  • Kymeia
    Kymeia NKS User Library Mod Posts: 5,021 mod
    edited December 9
    https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/196308#Comment_196308

    I agree - I still open up patches in Absynth that sound like nothing else - so complex and full of interest

    Plus NI missed a trick in ending one of the few synths that could do surround sound at a time where it is finally becoming more mainstream

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