ok thanks . Have done all that. Now I think things are starting to work a little better. I presume I have to have Komplete control running at the same time I have logic running right? Loaded Hypha ok but have downloaded everything from KC but your tutorial on you tube seems to suggest I should be able to see all the instruments in one place? How do I achieve that ? And..how do I use the keyboard to control the parameters of the VSTs in Logic?