Amount of FX per channel

JayLow

It would be great for transitions if you could control the amount of FX that is used for a certain track.

Currently if 2 tracks are on FX1 the amount of FX1 is the same for both tracks, and is controlled with the dry/wet of the FX itself.

Currently the amount of FX per track is a toggle on/off per track.

For Stems, this already works with the Kontrol S8, that you can control the amount of FX per Stem.

Sûlherokhh

NI did a survery asking if users wanted a Dry/Wet per channel (i. e. per deck) instead of per FX Unit. 😀

They never published the results. 🤨

What we got instead was Mixer FX. 😮

I was pretty disappointed. 😫

zephry

For the integrated controllers this would require a separate display and knob or a layered (shift type) action. I don't think it would have worked well.

This is just my opinion. How would you suggest this be added to dedicated controllers? Or even mapped?

lord-carlos

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/177502#Comment_177502

Maybe a new "mixer fx" that will be "send fx"?

That would allow you to turn one of the 4 mixer fx buttons from .. filter/echo/whatever to send, and any fx that is configured with "send" will catch it.

Then you can use it similar to send/return on external mixers.

Sûlherokhh

Well, in the survey the question was:

"Do you want a Dry/Wet Knob on your channel strip or a HP/LP Filter Knob?"

If a Dry/Wet per Channel function was in Traktor at all (midi-mappable and/or qml), I would immediately overmap the Channel Filter Knob of my S4 and S5 and add it to my X1 and F1 (in user mode).

Stevan

I believe that would introduce more latency because you need to route the audio signal back into a Deck and then send audio back to effects once again. What we need are "Deck FX" (effects that are working on a Deck level - before and FX Unit or a Mixer out) then use the same engine to come up with the vinyl brake, release effects and basic Delay and Reverb Sends and use stem controls GUI interface to display fx parameters.

Sûlherokhh

Every subchannel of stem/remix decks has an FX On/Off toggle AND a Dry/Wet(Amount) knob. It works there pretty good. There is no additional routing involved, Dry/Wet is sitting right behind the FX On/Off gate. One of those regulating that input would be enough. And you can remove the Dry/Wet for the FX Units, reducing the signal latency by about the same amount, if not more (when chaining several FX Units).

Stevan

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/177556#Comment_177556

Right, theres the submix already. Just not for the track decks currently. My bad.
So the work around is to convert tracks into stems and map all four FX Amounts to the same knob.

Sûlherokhh

https://community.native-instruments.com/discussion/comment/177565#Comment_177565

HA! You are completely right! 😄

Edit: Which reminds me (slightly off topic) of the fact, that all subchannel FX are post-subchannel-fader. Which means that the stem FX routing already has a slightly longer way to the main channel insert point compared to the original stem/slot audio.

Edit2: or was it insert instead? Suddenly i am not sure anymore. But i remember pre-listening a subchannel does not route the submix FX into the monitor channel.

zephry

Another way to add less effect is to duplicate the track and adjust the volume fader with effects on that track. Although this might also cause some phasing.

But I do this alot with a mapping I have for the Djtechtools Twister for pitch and key effects with a duplicate track. And I have yet to really hear any horrible phasing.

So if you have an open deck you can duplicate the track and slowly add in the effect as well adjust the EQ. To only effect certain frequencies.